Black Clover

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>The feminist teachings and doctrines were fake.
>Your captain, that you love with all your heart, is in love with a muscular macho man.
>All the women that you considered your friends like dick and date men in secret.
>You are the only lesbian in the squad.
>You will never be lovers with your captain

Lesbian is suffering

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She will start craving for dicks too

This, yuri is just a phase.

You cannot be the dick. All girls, even tomboy dykes succumb to the dick eventually.

There has never, ever, been a girl that liked the dick. They either tolerate it because the society expects them to, they want children or they just don't know that there are better options.

Sure thing sweetie.

God I hope

user, I think he is talking about 2D girls.

Look at Kanbaru from the Monogatari series, she is a pure tomboy dyke... But she also craves for the MCs cock

Everyone wants Araragi's dick. Even (You). So it doesn't really count.

Your complexes don't concern actual females, hamplanet

>he never charmed a lesbian

Why hasn't anyone made a pic with Yami fucking Charlotte raw while small tomboy nigg is forced to watch?

I WANT TO PULL OFF DOROTHY'S BLOOMERS! AAAAA

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Because NTR, even semi ones, is shit desu.

Your toothpick doesn't either, virgy.

>the entire blue rose are cock chasers
>the men are slaves only to be used for manpower and for their cocks
They must be descendants from the witches that left the witch forest.

This. I don't know who, but this bitch is gonna be thirsting after SOMEONE'S cock.

It will either be Magna or Kirsch,the only men she could tolerate and have a good camaderie with.

Kirsch is in love with Dorothy so she's gonna make magma babies with magna

>More Charlotte.
>More Dorothy.
>Asta isn't (totally) dense.
>Yami is as dense as the black holes he creates with his magic.
How can Tabata be this based? And I don't know why but knowing that Asta isn't (totally) dense and at the same time very open about his love for sister Lily makes him very likeable.
Or maybe I'm just tired of the 20 thousand dense MCs we get every year.

>All of them, except the dyke, were aware that Charlotte was lusting for Yami.
>They accepted to play the pretend game nonetheless.
Blue Rose confirmed for best squad in a single chapter.

they are just women

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Probably someone edgy

Please no, those two don’t deserve the tomboy

Deserve? Sol is a fucking jobber. Even with her noble levels of mana she never did anything noteworthy and was to weak to even attempt to bring back Charlotte. Magna and Kirsch are too good for her.

Sol (Earth) and Magna (Fire) make MAGMA

Her tight little ass is for Kirsch only

Just wait, she will be the first of her generation to marry someone and have a family.

Based. Fuck the ugly dyke.

fuck off shipfag

Friendly reminder that Noelle x Nozel will be the endgame next to Asta x Sister Lily.

Shoo Nozelfag

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What the fuck Forever21

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>I really loved that line Asta gave the villain Aizen when he activated his Sharingan: I am not what you expect

Ok, this fucking made me choke on my coffee. Oh god.

To be perfectly honest that image greatly confused me.

You're either a soie who's never had sex, or a hambeast who's never gotten any and convinced herself that dicks are a social thing like cigarettes and fashion.

It's a compass

If NOLL gains control of her magic is she gonna ditch the dude in the wand?

Nobody knows is right. Nobody knows what Black Clover is in Forever 21

>the Blue Rose Squad literally pushes Charlottes towards Yami while blushing and squeeling like teenage fangirls
Yami: Do Charlotte hate me?

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Yeah. I know that it's a compass but why would you.
Nevermind I just realized what you were trying to say.

Brown tomboy isn't gonna go down without a fight. Either she does something to charm her teacher or make Yami suffer.

For all you fatfags out there, here's your potbelly waifu

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Nah. She has already been charmed by Yami. For example when she didn't make a scene when Yami visited Char in her hospital room and told him he could stay.

Where the hell is Angel?!

Maybe still out of commission
Coma Angel?

Noooooo

>"Noelle...! My braid is detecting the presence of a devil nearby!...You must leave now and warn our comrades...!

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And you have no idea how to please a woman, so you glorify your dick, since that's the only thing you could handle.

Died from her burn wounds

But wasn't Acier the same age as Mereoleona?

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No. Acier was roughly fifteen years older than Mereoleona.

She still find a way to get in Char heart. It's a fight for Char affection and love between Yami and the tomboy.

Imagine Asta easily sensing Char's feelings when freaking YAMI remained as thick as a brick.

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>filename
Missed the opportunity to name it Snow White and the Dwarf

Why does it show 5 small lines = 10 degrees? garbage compass.

each line is two degrees, that's fairly standard

Vanessachads.....

Prolonged exposure to Noelle made Asta develop a tsun sensor.
Yami wasn't so (un)lucky.

/u/niggers BTFO

Whatever happened to Compass-chan? Is she still in hospital or is currently being burned at a stake for attacking the Royal Palace and attempting to murder the Silva princes and princesses?

I am sleepy, user. I didn't even notice that I made a typo before posting that.

Nozel would still job to it
I really want to see how she's coping with her elf counterpart slaughtering the royal household.

She's already being converted to the power of dick, she just needs Magna to show her why women crave dick so much.

Why are tsun sensors so fickle though? They never seem to detect tsuns in helpful situations.

She has Finral as a consolation prize, unless he ends up with that noble girl.

Will Finesse even learn to love Langris, when Langris himself doesn't see her as a romantic interest?

>being hit with a sneak attack is jobbing
Here we go again.

I'm pretty sure that Augustus declared the betrothal between Finesse and Langris null and void so she's now a free woman again.

She actually cucks him pretty hard because he ruins his magic control abilities. She can only be beaten through brute force.

It's working as intended. The only reason why Asta hasn't realized Noelle is into him is because she hasn't come to terms with it herself.

>inb4 Rose Captain tells her to go along with the BVLLs
She's either going to fall for the manlet dick or ride the delinquent motorcycle.

REMINDER:
Asta is a wonderful member.

MAGNA GONNA HIT A HOME RUN

Jesus Christ that was clever user
how can I send reddit gold

This series is written by a man, so women have to be love-crazy or depicted as damsels of distress. In any case, the femdom nature of the Blue Rose has dissipated. There aren't even men slaves in the squad anymore. It's all women.

>This series is written by a man, so women have to be love-crazy or depicted as damsels of distress
It's a sad thing it's not written by a women because they would've been twice as love crazed and with relationships and sex actually happening during the story.

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>Sol:BTFO: the chapter
I fucking love tabata

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I suggest you read some female mangaka written things before posting here you fat tumblr reject

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Asta has a wonderful member.

it's fucking amazing watching best girl and greatest lesbian flatty tomboy Sol get BTFO I love her so much

Sol isn't flat

Manga written by females wouldn't depict the female characters as being love-crazy unless it was a romantic series. For a serious story such as this one, more often than not, a female mangaka would depict female protagonists more seriously and less chauvinistically.

>That awkward empty space in the lower left hand corner
At least you tried, man.

I did.

compared to the titty monsters in the rest of this manga she is

>For a serious story such as this one
Please.

So do you somehow feel better about your self that a series aimed for young boys is written by a man?

More serious than not. It is a shonen series. Comedic elements are present, but for the most part there's more story and action focus.

Well, having a man fool young boys and teenagers into believing stereotypical and chauvinistic depictions of women are indicative of how they are in real life is bad. Not every female character in this series is a -dere character.

Charlotte's problem is being taken seriously that's why it's part of the main plot. Seeing her as "just" a side-character is sexist and misogynistic.

Despite being tsundere and having a crush on Asta I've never felt that Noelle's character was defined by Asta. She has her own personal issues that he isn't an active part of.

Who let the tumblr whale out of it's pen?

Every male in there series is a flavor of dere.
Why the fuck does it matter for females only?

tumblr probably?

>Yami will end up with a harem of women
Based.

>the titty monsters in the rest of this manga
There isn't that much disparity between boob sizes in this manga actually, unlike say bleach, which had actual flaties like Rukia next to Rangiku

Well we have secre now.

I am not talking about Charlotte. I'm talking about the love-crazy nobodies in her squad. Charlotte is suffering under the effects of a curse.

True, but Asta does play a role in about a third of Noelle's character interactions. And Noelle partially resolved her family subplot because of Asta.

Still, the convo between Mereo and Noelle is one of the best in the series.

Because in this world, women are treated unfairly and still depicted as a second class.

>Manga written by females wouldn't depict the female characters as being love-crazy unless it was a romantic series

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Curious here, any dude with a big dick ever fucked a pure lesbian before? Did she orgasm despite only being able to be attracted to women?

Troll.

it's a physiological response, have you ever had a snuggle session with a dude before

Just like leona haha! Look at how love crazy she is!

My wife Sol is so cute.

>Because in this world, women are treated unfairly and still depicted as a second class.
So like they should?

>I did.
List them

Mereo is how a female character should be written. She isn't obsessed with love. She isn't a victim or a damsel in distress. She knows what she wants, she trains and works her damn hardest to make sure she gets it, and she lives by her own rules. She doesn't discriminate based on wealth, status, or gender, but whether you are strong or weak. She became a captain for her brother's sake, but she is also doing this out of pride for her family name being tarnished by Fuego's carelessness.

Conversely, the other two female captains are a stereotypical genki girl who is also depicted as a joke comic relief character who does nothing in the story when asleep, and Charlotte (a partial tsundere but suffering under the effects of a curse so it can't be helped).

>Medieval era Europeon setting
>women are treated realistically
You dont say?

So did she want to kiss you?

I want you to kill yourself so much

I bet you are fine with finral being some womanizer though right?
Ir males being dense idiots
Or out right assholes.

>I am not talking about Charlotte.
But I'm saying that if you think Charlotte's squad being in love is sexist and misogynistic, then Charlotte is too. Her feelings aren't the result of a curse and Tabata's shining a light on that by making her curse part of the main plot.

Has Noelle got a figure yet?

Not yet.
Astas still getting his

IT'S TIME FOR MAGNA.

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Soon

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>They push her towards his pointy black katana

anybody have the screencap where a lesbian talks about her burly friend helping her move stuff, then pats her head which prompts her to be massively turned on and have an identity crisis?

Free for Augustus' new hero, Sekke.

Would buy

I have never moved so fast in my life as the time my coworker tried to kiss me, that was a serious adverse reaction

>She doesn't discriminate based on wealth, status, or gender, but whether you are strong or weak.
Reminder that you're only alive because the discrimination between strong and weak is regulated by "law"

So what does this actually mean?

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Four Leaf Clover > Sexism

The natural order

Noelle, Henry, or Gordon.

>Your squad already has an expert in such curses

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Noelle is cursed.
Tabata is not being subtle here.

Cursed with love towards magic-less manlets.

I want to say it's Henry because his disease is so unusual and has such specific conditions to it, but the way the pages are set up strongly imply its Noelle. And that's for the best too, since it being a curse and not a disease takes away part of the tragedy of his existence.

/u/ BTFO

>Be shitskin dyke
>get your aryan sis love interest get stolen by black bull superior nippon steel
Damn, gotta hurt to be Sol right about now.

lmao you fucking /u/nigger go tug your dick to some dyke fantasy before you kill yourself.

At the time I thought she was talking about Asta and his devil, seeing it as a “curse”

Turns out I think she’s talking about noelle considering the next chapter is going to be about her

Noelle isn't cursed, she just has a ton of mana which she couldn't control but now can to an extend.
It's gordon or henry.

Did you miss the last page?

Or Grey.

REMINDER:
Asta's member belongs to Noelle.

REMINDER:
Asta's member belongs to his harem, not just Noelle.

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Mimosa and Rebecca don't matter and Lily will never reciprocate. Secre can get in on that action though.

Based and tsunpilled

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He's lying to her.

What did the mobile game mean by this

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Leo preferably.

Yuno is good
William shit

William hasn't done anything impressive combat wise

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>hfw she sees astas dik

>has wings
>only beings that have wings are devils

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It's a fallen angel

A fallen angel makes sense
They look too spiky for an angel's wings

Nice coloring

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Looks like not even Julius told Damnatio about the final fight vs Wevil

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all women are the same

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What's his master plan?

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>That girl in the middle, to the left of Sol

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It's his time to strike.

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Yeah it is. Imagine being a retard who wants fairness in a fight to the death. If you can't handle a sneak attack, you're weak.

To be genderbent by magic, brainwashed and be a dictator.
Yuno = Juno Regina (Queen), the goddess of marriage and childbirth.
Asta vs Juno

>noelles mom has relation to devils.
Come on user

Eh could be she just likes to look tacky

She will seduce Sol.

Vanessa's not a rug muncher.

> an elf cucked charlotte
> and elf was 100 times better than charlotte
based

nobody except actual retards ever shipped yami and vanessa

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> mimosa's arc

When Sol is cured of the gay will she stop dressing like a cheap whore?

Finral is for Finesse. The anime is full of shipfags, same thing that happened with Bleacg

Not yet.

>next scene cuts to Noelle

Who could've been?!?!

Just went 3 days without wifi. Whay did I miss?

The best arc.

Fuck finess.
And no not litterally
No one cares about some litteralwho

>She will start craving for dicks too
Wasn't she thirsty for magnas flaming cock?

So that's why her mother died and she's asking Dorothy about it... I mean, a strong woman like Noelle's mother dying on birth or something is ridiculous.

It's not a matter of fair fight, user. Learn more about jobbing before acting so triggered you have to resort to insults. Nozel lost because Kivn made a sneak attack, it didn't coynt as jobbing because Nozel was already in disadvantage because of Kivn fucking up his control and Kivn already proved how powerful she was by one-shotting Nebra.

Its not all that ridiculous that a strong woman died of childbirth.
It was fishy because she.doed of child birth in a world where healing magic exist.

Healing magic isn't like straight up regeneration though. BC's healing is just acceleration of natural healing of your body.

That should be more than enough to keep her stable.
Most cases of a mother dieing in child birth is blood lose or heart faliure. Both of witch should be fine in a world of magic

>Manga written by females wouldn't depict the female characters as being love-crazy unless it was a romantic series. For a serious story such as this one, more often than not, a female mangaka would depict female protagonists more seriously and less chauvinistically.
Then surely you must have plenty of examples to prove your point.

I hate shit like this man, how contrive

What the fuck...? Is the BC threads now infested by tumblr fatties just like BNHA threads? Just...how?

She's a drunk slut, she only wants fun, any kind of fun.

>implying he didn't know and was just using even lies to get what he want: Asta's execution

Theres no fun if theres no dick

>forgetting about sol's thicc magic

A lie spanning the ages, a woman only needs 3 inches.
If you want to go to extremes she just needs her clit played with which means a lesbian is enough.

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I'm talking.about vanessa.
Not some conspiracy c/u/ck

Lewd bird can't get enough of Asta's thicc head.

Prove vanessa didn't have fun with other girls then you can't

What the fuck is a /u/fag doing in a Black Clover thread? I thought you arrogant fucks didn't read manga with male characters?

I know you love cock but vanessa had fun with girls too.

She never flirted with noelle
So she much not be interested in women

Same response every time, like a legion of robots.
'Purest form of love' my ass. Like talking to a broken record.

I bet she's really torn up that her body was used to murder so many people, including royals she swore to protect

Vanessa became a literal who after her arc though

She's never displayed that kind of interest in women. Not once

Got triggered by the OP I guess

Also, someone special is trying really hard to bait by samefagging. Not talking about the /u/fag

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>got a part in Rufulu's fight
>joined the Bulls in the assault on the elves in the capital
>literal who
user, go home. You're drunk.

Nah she still shown up and taught several elves with other bulls in the elf arc.

Don't quote him. He's just baiting and he's doing it poorly.

Is this a foreshadowing?

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No, it's simply cute.

I only misted that as a.fun meme the first time around.
Maybe there was deeper meaning to it or Easter egg.
But I doubt it.
If anything this is just a excuse to allow noelle access to otherworldly magic

Post more tsun cute.

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This is a personal favourite

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Here's a lil' Noll.

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Do you think Nozel fell for Noelle around this time?

To become the next Wizard King, duh.

No, he started lusting for the puss when Noelle got the Valkyrie armor that reminds him of his mom.

A 'what if' that will never be...

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If noelle ever gets another redesign those arm gloves need to make a return

Maybe post time-skip design, though I don't like time-skips and the plot is already moving too fast to need one.

When will we be free of the 'ha ha the romance isn't happening because the male is too dense ha ha' plague?

Yes, Noelle's father is a demon. That's why it was hard for her to control her magic.

The Japanese preview for next chapter says:
>禁術との因縁はノエルに・・・!? 次号、センターカラー!!
>The relationship between Noelle and the forbidden curse is?! Next chapter, center color!
So it's pretty obviously her.

If you want romance, go read a romance manga. This is a battle shonen user.

See user the problem is that it's the same shit there.

>inb4 triggered dykes
Yurifags BTFO again. Lesbians are a joke.

Go read KnY

Blue Roses were a mistake.

Forbidden tsun curse are strong affecting both Charlotte and Noelle
I really hope for the next CP is them two together

You can't be serious user.

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>the word 'feminist' in the OP post
Now I get why there were some triggered anons and a tumblr fatty here.

Dumb

She’s next to submit to the dick.

Hard to hide romantic interactions when you can smell her love hue hue

Just like Charmy being a dwarf.

her captain can be bi and open to sharing her love

No. They're just being true to themselves and unintentionally BTFO'd Sol. They're based.

>inb4
Way too late to be saying that

>16 results are dick
Yea Forums is pretty obsessed with the male sex organ. What a bunch of faggots!

Keep saying that.

No.
Just plain dumb

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I just noticed that the outline of Papa Silva's hair is the same as Nozel's. Did Nozel inherited the Devil-Detecting Braid from him?

If the idea is for it to be a long runner like One Piece with Asta eventually becoming WK, then there's no way he's going to obtain the rank at age 16 as he is now.

So a timeskip is inevitable. Even if it's just "___ months have passed since ___" happening incrementally

Black Clover crossover featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series when?

Tabata could always do it like Kingdom.

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Based amvil

It's gonna be so good when wevil comes back and BTFO of that cocky chad.
Orgasmic

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Never. So fuck off with these inane questions and if you want to ask questions to another user just ask them directly. Stop acting like a newfag when you've been here for a week already.

it's gonna be magna

>no fun allowed

Get out. I already claimed her

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Are they lovers now?

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No, Yami is too focused on taking shits and breaking his own limits to have sex

I used to think Noelle might be the best girl, but Nero is best bird and best girl 100%

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>Both best girls
>Both Asta's wives
Coincidence? I think not.

He should surpass his limits so that he can do more things at once.

>implying that Secre doesn't see Asta as the noisy and reckless midget that she have to babysit all day long

No japanese badass can have sex

Yeah, she's top tier. But Sister Lilly is still the one that's gonna win.

This. Asta was introduced asking Sister Lily to marry him. Tabata already showed the endgame girl in the very first chapter.

I disagree simply because I find noelles character as a whole to be a pleasure.
Secres hot but for now that's not enough.

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>see Asta as noisy and reckless midget
>has to babysit him
Yeah, like I said.

Just like Noelle

Noelle wants that dick. Nero is unconfirmed as of now

He will be back, right? Bros?

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>Nero is unconfirmed as of now
she's thinking about it

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Well, yeah. I'm just saying there's a pattern is all - and I like it!

Noelle is still best for me but Secre has made impressive progress for someone so new. On design and mannerisms alone she easily broke into the top 5 for me.

Or she's thinking how much of a dummy Asta is for not noticing Noelle's romantic feelings for him.

Courtroom recaps every volume

Secre really didnt make progress for me. She.simply stomped out few girls I liked less than her. In my top 5.
Secre is cute so shes solid 3rd place for me.
Noelle is cute and perfect ergo first

Well, the progress was almost instant upon her reveal but that's progress nonetheless. Plus she's been here the whole time anyway so she got all the stocked up Nero points. She was almost immediately in fifth place and jumped to third after seeing her smug, expressionless face for a bit longer.

>girl

Nah she got 3rd for me off of appearance alone
But overall her character is an alright addition

Nah, she's cute and alright. But she failed to shine next to Noelle. It hurts that she was a bird in most of her past appearances before the Lumiere reveal chapter. I like her as a team pet and series mascot, but as a girl she needs to work more to be the best and beat Noelle.

Out of curiosity who's your number 2?

Mariella

Well that's an interesting choice. Not even in the realm of what I expected.

What did you expect?

I dunno really. I guess more conventional choices might be Charlotte, Mimosa, or some of the Bulls. It's rare that I see Mariella even talked about in the first place.

For sure she will be talked about again when Tabata finally get to the Diamond Kingdom arc.

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Oblivious Nippon bastard.

how many times you have read the mango?

Twice

Friendly reminder that shota Julius is for headpats only.

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why do people ship her with Asta?

Thats headcanon, We dont know how healing works aside from it having limits unless you use demon help.

Because she's a girl and was always close to Asta as a birb? I don't even understand myself since she never even showed any romantic interest towards him.

Because he's CHADsta and he gets all the love.

On a more serious note she spent her time as Nero bullying the shit out of him, looks at him like he's garbage, and has an air of smug indifference - all of which makes a really fun contrast with his overly-enthusiastic genki personality. Plus whenever I see "kuu" I just want there to be a little "dere" as well.

Literally no pairing exists. Its So barren fans make up literally all the ships.

Lesbians don't exist.

They totally do. They are the ugly ones that hate men.

oh, right. Well those things need to be dealt with as well. The least pleasant, least reasonable things on the planet. Never happy.

cope harder

blow me

Sorry, I don't suck cocks. You really mustn't assume everyone is like you user!

Original, and creative. You should be proud of yourself.

A question: Would Nozel die if you cut off his braid?

Yes but the braid would grow a new Nozel

Imagine infinite Nozels wanting to fuck Acier's.

Oh hey I didn't notice Nero was back in her birb form

>P-Please win asta-kun
Nah Nero wants the dick too

Considering Japan, probably.

Sol is annoying sometimes but I do genuinely feel sorry for her.

Based.

Hope you'd get Rhya'd

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When you read actually good authors

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Shes not a kuu though

I want to marry her.
Then make her open and close my beer can with her magic for no reason.

>Charlotte being tsun
>Yami: Kek, she's in love
>Her wanting to be honest
>Yami: Damn, she hates me so much
Sometimes i want to choke Yami for causing misunderstandings at first place

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Cute tsun

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~My wife

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What she is then?

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Sorry user you'll forget all about that.

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Baggy eyed

Marx is kinda cute. As long as he's not hounding Julius to do paperwork.

That's when marx is most cute

But Julius' happiness matters!

Not when hes neglecting his paperwork!

Calm down, Marx!

Friendly reminder that she will become Asta's ONLY wife in the future.

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Based. Yuri is a sin anyway... Also

You know, user, with great tastes comes great responsibility. Hideaki Anno called it "The Waifufag's Burden." Myself, I just call it as I see it: the responsibility of the straight normal guy to discipline the degenerates.

*Looks directly at the camera.*

The lolicriminals, the yuribitches, the yaoilosers...It's our responsibility to civilize them. And if we can't? Then they shall dangle from the elm tree. The Day of the Rope is near, senpai. We'll have every pedo, faggot and dyke in this community dead or in chains in 10 years, and may God took away my Saber dakimakuras this very night if I'm wrong."

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Based and heteropilled

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but saber got LESBO'D by rin

She was too weak to resist and she needed to be lubricated for GOOD and HEALTHY sex with a MAN

Kek

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Based

Why does his hair looks so soft? I want to touch it.

Based

Why do people ship Finral with Vanessa? He has a cute yamato nadeshiko cake waiting for him back home who will literally be miserable if she has to marry anyone else because royalty are all dicks.

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>Royalty are all dicks
Fuegoleon, Mereoleona, Leopold, Nozel post development, Noelle, Kirsch post development and Mimosa. Yeah, they're all dicks.

Nobody cares about your dumb hag

Not the same user, but isn't Finesse only twenty-five years old? Why do people keeps calling her old?

> Hag

Vanessa is 24 finesse 25. Nobody wants a thott witch for a wife.

She looks 30

Nobody wants an irrelevant boring litteralwho wife

Because both those characters have a dynamic together that exist as well as being characters people actually care about and not a plot device

Finesse is for Langris so Vanessa is for Finral.

I'm sure that Finral is still interested. He was acting nervous and sweating while holding her after saving her from Latry.

I guess I found where the NaruSaku and IchiRuki retard shippers all migrated to after the fallout. Yamato nadeshiko always wins. When will you learn?

Orihime actually shown up and was the objective of one of the largest arcs in bleach.
Cant say the same about finess

He didnt look nervous though.
He was trying to look cool like he does for every girl.
And he was already sweating when he got there.

Yup when I see vanessa everything from her personality to appearance just screams rukia and sakura.

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Kek

Well, he looked nervous to me.

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Looks tired to me

Rukia had other ships. Sakura had other ships. Vanessa has other ships. I don't know why people were so stupid back then and even now.

Sit there with a straight face and tell me that the Finral Langris story line wouldn't have worked without Finesse. Of course it would. She was a minor addition to that plotline and not even close to the reason for their conflict. Shes literally just there to be shipped with Finral. She is the only girl who sees beyond his persona and considers him a nice guy instead of a womanizer. Its plain as day what her role is.

Nah. He was acting energetic and all right after this moment and acted the usual after he put her down. And if he was really tired then he wouldn't have managed to face Latry just seconds later.

Not to mention that in the water arc Vanessa offers FInral her bossom if hes able to be brave. So shes literally treating access to her body as a form of currency. Is a woman like that wife material?

Rukia and Sakura are main characters while Vanessa is a recurring supporting character. Meanwhile, Finesse is only a minor character only shown thrice so it's not really fair to compare her to those three, right?

>tell me the plot woulda worked without the plot device

Men are always looking for a reward

Is there even any finral x finess art?

I don't think that it would've worked without her there. Langris' inferiority complex started because of her remark to Finral that he overheard.

Finess x finral shippers exist?
I thought it was like Kiato x noelle where no one gave a shit

Well, maybe if you weren't such a dumb newfag you would've known that. Now shoo and stop starting shipping wars.

It wouldnt be a black clover thread without some shipping wars.

You know that most of us prepare not to have shipping wars, right? Do you think that this is Naruto or Bleach threads?

Only one I could find.
It's pretty degenerate.

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Darn degenerate nobles and royalty.

She was literally fucking created to be his wife. She has no other role in the story. I'm not a shipper of them I just understand that if Finral was supposed to be with somebody else the Finral / Langris story line could have easily have been written without her existence.

If I'm wrong that's fine because I like Vanessa anyway but Vanessas character can be taken in dozens of different directions but Finesse can't.

Yes brainlets I get that shes a very very minor character but as a decent storyteller why create a character whos purpose is to be a bride and then have her marry some unnamed character or Langris who doesn't like her. It's illogical.

Why does the anime do this?
Not that I'm complaining. But is it just there own personal liberties? I know animes do generally consult with mangaka with these things.

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I dunno why did you ask why do people ship vanessa x finral? When the answer was pretty clear

>handholding
Why you not censored that lewd image?

I think they have some certain liberties regarding small scenes like that to pad the anime.

Maybe I should have worded it differently. I can understand why they are shipped but Vanessa has also teased Magna just as many times if not more. To me storywise Finral is already spoken for but that's just my interpretation of the characters. The author can take it any direction he wants.

Because they can see what the author intends to do.
It's obvious finral x vanessa will be a thing even though finral deserves more than that roastie.

I dont know but they can keep at it

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The animators of Bleach did the same with Ichiruki. In the end these two didn't end up together. I wouldn't trust animators on these kind of things.

I dont know.
All I know is that magna and sol is more popular here

I never said I trusted it.
My first question was why

They ship these two. That's all there is to it. It's pretty obvious, too.

They got fantastic taste then

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Nah, Finral has a better taste.

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>tuckered out from just walking
>going to die at like 35
>probably a limp fish in bed
Nah

Post cute Charmy pics please

Asta fucking best bird when?

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Stop posting this

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> Hey finral can you get me some booze?
> Hey Finral can you mow the lawn
> Don't complain I'll let you touch my boobs later

I can't imagine Vanessa and Finral in a healthy relationship. Finrals too much of a pushover to put her in her place.

Nah. She's still a royalty and could give Finral a bunch of royal babies with giant mana pool, spent most of her time inside her home so she must've learned how to do houseworks, a sweet and pleasant girl without any known vices like drinking and the very first person who saw Finral as more than a wimp and even encouraged him in their first meeting. Definitely a wife made for Finral. Also since Augustus declared that her engagement towards Langris is over then she could now be with Finral without any problem and Langris doesn't even like her at all.

Never. Let keep their relationship purely platonic.

Nothing really changes here.
>finral can you get my medicine
>finral can you mow the lawn
>thanks sweetie I'm going to bed early I cant breath to well.

user her condition is very weak.
And shes royalty so she probably doesnt even know how to put on a bra.

user, she's a royalty. She has maids and servants to do those for her. I'm sure Finral won't become her slave when they get married.

Well, her being too weak to do housework might be true. But my other pointst still stand. She is still a perfect waifu for Finral. And just because she has a chronic illness doesn't mean that she will die soon. I'm sure that doctors in the royal capital other than Owen are eager to look for a way to prolong her life more since she's the King of Clover's grandniece.

>touch my boob
>not reck my shit

Finral needs a pervert that would call over One of her witch sisters for a 3some

Nah, user, I'm sure that despite his womanizing acts Finral is still a pure boy who won't engage in such degeneracy.

God, I love her.

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user please.
He even princess Carryd people.
Hes maximum degenerate

Princess carry is a mark of a true gentleman prince. Get out.

>promoting gentlemen degeneracy

>Creating false propaganda against gentlemen

the jewminibox translation is shit. What she's referring to is the curse killing Noelle's mother, which played a part in effecting her mentally (causing her to be unable to control her magic)

FUCK OFF LANGRIS

No where was any of that said or implied. Fuck off with your headcanon. The only real info we have to go in is the next chapter preview
>The relationship between Noelle and the forbidden curse is?! Next chapter, center color!

Rude

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Her eyes are too bright

It was not just the jaminibox translation

That makes it creepier. She's supposed to be mysterious and otherworldly because of her having been affected by the forbidden spells she used on Wevil and later on Lumiere.

FUCK OFF LANGRIS!

Never, user!

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FUCK OFF LANGRIS!!!

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Sorry but I want to see her eyes dark red with not hint of light or life in em. I don't want to feel creeped out, but feel like she's piercing my very soul.

>Also since Augustus declared that her engagement towards Langris is over

Wait what, when?

Well, I understand your preferences. But I prefer here yes having lights in them than actually looking dead.

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During a discussion he was having with the vaude family head before latri attacked.

BASED Tabata

Come one, user, let's be friends. I promise I won't put holes on you.

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I did. I like slutty girls and baras.

Brown tomboys were made for loving heterosexual sex.

FUCK OFF LANGRIS!!!!1

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>the devil energy tainted you, you must undress so I can purify you!

>"B-brother Nozel...Are you sure..? I mean, Nero and Asta didn't need to take off their clothes at all..."

>The feminist teachings and doctrines were fake.
based and redpilled
and by dick you mean Asta's dick

No? They're still an all-woman squad, they just don't hate men.

Fuck you, it would be Magna who will turn her into a woman. Asta is for Sister Lily only.

Asta's dick is royal property.

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You mean this "royal's" property.

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Noelle
More like Nohead

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Nah tsun royal property

Fuck off decapitanon

So, his?

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Blushslut

Yes

Damn

Kek

If it really was based and redpilled the squad would be a disastrous failure like any female only military unit IRL

Well they still have magic

Nozel isn't a tsundere what he is is a former abusive brother/asshole that is gradually becoming a better person.

Asshole yes, abusive, not really? Only words.
The physical harm is from Solid and Nebra

Go back.

How much of a newfag are you? You can't even reply directly to that user.

Serious question, you guys really think Noll is the cursed one? I think it might be Gordon with a curse that changed his appearence to his black clown form. Or possibly even Henry, I mean hes littelary cursed already.

See

Fuck, i hoped for more Gordon and Henry.

He doesnt want to directly challenge the tsunGODS

No, only Solid was bullying Noelle physically. Nebra was more passive/agressive and sarcastic.

I mean, it's not entirely impossible for them to also have some sort of curse, even William is cursed, so there's something going on with curses on the clover kingdom.

I'm pretty sure Henry said he had an illness.
It's rare but not unheard of

>inb4 it is revealed that the curses that William, Charlotte and Acier or Noelle have are related to what happened 500 years ago.

Verbal abuse is still abuse
;^)

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William's curse is weird because it doesn't seem to have some sort of negative effect on him, yet he still refers to his birthmark as a curse handed down by his mother. Maybe "handed down" is what happened to Noelle too.

Tabata is such a dogshit writer that he completely retconned and rewrote the Silva plotline to pander to the popularity polls.

>Nozzle Silver
My sides

>and rewrote the Silva plotline
I'll bite. How? This should be very funny to see
What was the supposed Silva plotline then?

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>using emoticon.
Go back to tumblr or twitter, faggot.

Well to be fair.
The fuck did noelle do during the dungeon arc?
Its mean but in this case it's not all that wrong.

Can't you read? That's not Nozel, it's Nozzle.

The falseflagger is back. Quick,post more tsuns. Nozel this time

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Why do I have to be reminded.

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I dont have enough!

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Help take down a diamond general, protect mimosa and lent her powers to astas second sword. Not bad at all.

That's what I like about that scene so much.
It hurt most because it was true.
Out if all the people who went on that mission.
She ultimately was the least useful

Here's a tsun. Also
CHARLOTTE'S CURSE IS PART OF THE MAIN PLOT

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Getting Mercury Magic is a mistake. He should've gotten Water Magic like his siblings.

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Of course it is, Noll bro.

See
She was fourth MVP above klaus and mimosa

The 3rd point did happen But l really doubt noelle intentionally did that in anyway

I think what that user means is that Nozel doesn't give out participation awards.
What Noelle did basically amounted to that, figuratively speaking.

None of that had all that much weight in my opinion
Nor was lotus nearly as dangerous as Mars was.

She's pretty cold and distant. There's an element of smug detachment that's unique, but I think she fits pretty well under the kuu umbrella.

I hate this... This is worse than Narco executions and snuff shit

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Kuu is robotic and blunt. With a general lack of emotional cognitive capability

Soon hopefully.

If Acier died from a curse and Noelle's poor magic control is the result of a curse then Nozel is a fucking asshole if he knew and didn't tell her.

Guys, I'm having flashbacks to the twitter fujo and the thick-headedness that rivaled the user who couldn't understand the whole point of Damnatio's trial.

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>Nozel is a fucking asshole
He's simply an inconsistent poorly written character because Tabata can't write for shit even when ripping off other mangaka's works.

>he's still here
Does it still hurt that your favorite mangaka took a break this week, isn't it?

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>forgetting this page

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Nah. That person is obviously a falseflagger that samefags. Pretty pathetic and reminds me of the Endy-hater in the BNHA's threads.

>user is furious about his head canon
A classic

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Does Acier have pointy ears when she is pregnant with Noelle because of wegh?

Still waiting faggot

I think you're being biased. Lotus isn't that powerful but hes far from a joke, he almost assassinated William remember. And protecting the only healer has obvious benefits.

He can't respond because it's obvious that he don't even read the series at all. I do wonder tho what made him so triggered this time. Probably got bullied in a bait thread again.

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I guess. But I feel like this thread has been over the whole power scale vs sneak attack argument before

He wasn't even trying to assassinate William that time. He was just trying to kidnap him while William was distracted. It seems that you're overestimating him now.

Should be a small Charmy with a long "LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

It's behavioral - not cognitive. A kuu character can be completely capable of understanding and processing emotions; the qualifications are in behavior that is aloof and distant. Being robotic isn't necessary - nor is being blunt, though Secre fits that one. She's largely silent and introverted. She maintains an appearance of indifference and speaks very plainly and without emotion. She has emotions and can show them, but generally acts rather detached. It's pretty textbook kuu with an added helping of judgmental smugness over the top. I guess you could argue that the smugness is an emotion, but it's less a variable state of emotion and more her general state of being - it doesn't fluctuate or change much. Of course, there's a difference between degrees of kuu - with some characters being more completely emotionless and others simply being more cool and introverted, but in the end I think it fits categorically.

What about Rades' "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"?

Not him, but at the very least the justification that Nozel felt protective of Noelle doesn't seem to fit with his inability to reign in his siblings behavior. Also, she was subjected to pretty extreme emotional abuse form all of them - including Nozel - so it's hard for me to see what's been done so far as the conclusion of a redemption arc. But then, we don't know that it is - they could all have more down the line for redeeming themselves. In any case those are my two primary complaints. It's not a deal-breaker but it does bug me.

I guess I'll agree to disagree

Weak or not, Lotus would've been toasted even if he succeeded on kidnapping William. Julius will definitely chase and assrape him for touching his son, unless Patri has already turned into pincushion for touching his bro. My sides are already hurting just imagining these possible scenarios.

Nozel was not home most of the time. He was a magic knight when noelle was born
I feel like we covered this

Neither of these really disprove his point that taking him down was an important and relevant feat. As a skillful and craft enemy general it was important to beat him and Noelle was personally involved in that.

Damn, user. I could feel your passion in this topic just by reading your post. Stay strong, user!

I hope nozel becomes wk

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Well, that user is not the same twitter fujo user who was angry about Noelle forgiving her siblings. This one is obviously new. Who doesn't think here in Yea Forums BC board that Nozel is a tsun? Who? When Nozel already began showing signs as a tsun ever since Fuego was lut into coma by Patri?

>lut
*put

Yeah, this has been brought up before - at least in the one other thread I was in discussing this. I don't think that's an excuse for all the times their mistreatment of her was plainly visible in front of him. He definitely saw at least some of it. And he plainly contributed to the abuse himself on numerous occasions. Now, I definitely believe that his siblings and father bear more responsibility as they were more cruel - but that's only a comparative measure. The man was still a massive dick for a long time.

I'm not that new, but I am a different person. I don't take the extreme stance that Noelle shouldn't forgive them or that they're irredeemable dogshit. It was just a bit rushed is all. And even that can be fixed by having making it up to her be a lingering element of their motivations.

You say numerous occasions but all we saw what the star award ceremony.
That's it.
Nothing else was shown with nozel being in the same room as the other siblings

I dont think nozel plans on or ever would think of showering noelle with gifts to make it up to her.
He said his own apology and hes done with it.

I don't think anybody's denying he was a massive dick, but he still cares in his dickish way.

That's just how he is.
Hes like that to himself too.
It's his own standard that he lives by. If he useless he knows damn well to admit it.

You mixed up the clauses. We only saw him observe the other siblings abuse once (though I find it hard to believe it never happened before). It was his own personal contributions what were numerous. He had a pattern of belittling her and blaming her for the death of their mother.

Well, I wasn't really imagining that. If I had to come up with something specific there could maybe be a moment where Nozel looks back at his mistreatment of Noelle and that influences his decision to belittle or encourage someone else. Or maybe he's reminded again of his mother and almost relapses to being horrible to Noelle but steels himself and acknowledges the wrongness of that. These kind of things would help build sympathy and make it so his behavior has lasting influence on the story.

Character profiles translated from vol17-21:
imgur.com/a/uVFlS3S

From Noelles flashbacks and thoughts about her past and Mimosas reaction to Noelles reaction of Nozel acknowledging her it's not likely what happened at the star festival was a rare occurrence

So you already know that it has been discussed many times before. Why bring it up again? We already know that Nozel is an asshole, and his neglect and harsh words were unforgivable, but he's already on his way to making up with Noelle and Solid had already took the first step on becoming a better sibling to Noelle. Remember that this is still a shonen manga, not a psychological one. Tabat wouldn't dwell deeper on the affects of abuse on Noelle's psyche other than her lack of magic control that she've already solved a long time ago. Tabata already made Nozel swallow his royal pride and apologize and that's probably what we readers and Noelle would get from him unless Tabata planned something for the next chapter.

Mimosas reaction ment jack shit because even her family treated noelle like shit

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Ok, these siblings are suprisingly cute.

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You'd be surprised. It hasn't been much in this thread but in previous threads people have tried to excuse his every action. Nozelfags can be intense.
>he was a massive dick, but he still cares in his dickish way
I can agree with that. At the end of the day he has a heart and he's progressing as a person.

See this is what I'm talking about. He's not some perfect machine that judges everything correctly all the time. He is demonstrably harsh on Noelle even when she does well and he makes judgments about people before having all the information. That latter point feeds into the fact that he, like most royals, is a snobby douche. And even when his judgment was correct about Noelle's lack of ability his behavior isn't justified. He was unfairly cruel and only hurt and limited her.

user nozel has a pattern of belittling EVERYONE. We already covered that hes an asshole.
I dont think iv ever heard him praise ANYONE.

What an angry manlet.

I was never talking about judgement.
The conversation was dickness

Well there was the one time in the flash back with acier.
But yeah

What excuses are you talking about. I have been in the past BC threads for months and lurk longer but I have never seen any Nozelfag excuse his actions. We all know that he is a jerk and an asshole and he was really harsh towards Noelle and never tried to excuse him. He's a dick from the start and still a dick but he's a dick that cares and is now showing to Noll he cares in his own tsun tsun dickish way.

Can someone shop this to make his likes "Licht and dick"?

This, we usually have fun with his tsun moments, but nobody ever praises him as a good person. He's slowly acknowledging people, slooooowly, but he's still an asshole.

>but I have never seen any Nozelfag excuse his actions.
About 20 posts above you anons defended him roasting Noelle at the ceremony

Ask edit user. He could also edit Licht in a thought bubble there.

Yeah, I agree.

My second response was to (what seemed like) one of those excuses.

Assuming you were the second reply, It seemed like you were saying that because he holds himself to a high standard he's not a dick - to which I responded that his standards aren't perfect and he's still judgmental, which is what makes him a dick. If you weren't saying that then I don't know what you were trying to say.

Hes pretty agreeable though
Never seen him be purposely obtuse

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I never excused his behaviour.
I simply said he was not wrong in my opinion.
I agreed when they were shitting on mimosa too.
A healers job is litterally to not be taken out first

user, everyone here, even the Nozelfags, could see that Nozel is a dick. Nobody is saying otherwise. Nobody is defending him and acting like he's a good person. Why are you even hung up on what he had said a couple of hundred chapters back anyway?

He was also like this after the fight woth dark elf Patri.

For sure, I agree.

I never said high standards.
I said his own standards.
To witch we see hes hes willing to call himself and his fellow squad less than worthless.
My point was more so hes a dick to everyone. And hes not hypocritical about it

Nozel said mean things to Noelle but were mostly centered on the fact she is useless and let their mother die.
Solid abused her physically and verbally because he's an asshole.
Nebra just followed Solid on some verbal abuse but nothing that heavy really, will likely reveal she just didn't want to be the one bullied.

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Nah, let her stay the mean girl bitch that she is now. Her character is perfect as it is. I want her reason for bullying Noelle is that she also blamed her for their mother's death that happened when she was only ten-years-old.

>Her character
Which is? she's just a laughs when solid says something and praises her big brother.

Really? That's all you got from her on-screen appearances in both manga and anime? Not her smugness, her trickster nature in confusing her enemies by making clones from her mist and how she even tried to comfort Solid in her own sarcastic way after Solid's defeat to Noelle which showed that she cares for him?

My superfuta wife cant be this cute...

>See this is what I'm talking about.
Not him but that doesn't prove you right.
I don't see the word "but" in that post.
No semblance of "he's an asshole BUT he's not" which means he's essentially not an asshole.

Tabata you hack why didn't you give ber boobies as big as her sister's and Vermillion cousins' REEEEEEE!!!!!!

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To me it doesn't make sense to respond to "he's an asshole" with "that's just how he is" unless you're making an excuse for him.

So some artist will someday make a pic of every other female royal boob shaming her