Kaguya

Onodera Forever
The True End

Not really, I just want Ishi to end up happy. Doesn't matter who the end girl is if he's happy with her

>can't take a woman talking shit
hello mr Optoma dealer

MAKIBROS WW@

me on the right

korean user on the left

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Link to last thread to laugh at Mikofags

Iino was trying to cheer Ishigami up once she saw he was actually upset, she's just an autism gremlin and can't into other people very well.

Modern genrations were raised with "you can do what you want with your life" shit mentality and no beatings,plus men are no longer taught to be men.
So no suprise that we have generations of pussys with vaginas and pussys with penises.

Yes

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count me in brother

Men are too scared to fight back.

Why the fuck would I bother listening to literal who talking shit about me? Are you a cuck? A masochist?

What is this face trying to convey?

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>2 weeks in a row breaking 900 posts
Nice

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>OP is a fucking bitch: the thread
bravo

Welcome to the true otters world.

Why do you think Miko is in any position to be talking shit? She can fuck off and so can you, dumb cuck.

>what a nerd, I guess I can toy with him a bit longer

Yeah, it's better to hide like a big boy instead of telling her to fuck off or ignoring what a fucking woman says.

As long its Onodera or Maki, I'm happy

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>This is a first for me too
>pure virgin confirmed
You niggers still haven't APOLOGIZE

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Remember when this manga was good?

>needing your enemy's words to form a retort

>Implying
Women everywhere hate men that cry. I thought it was a myth until they actually cringed and laughed when I told them I conforted a bro that ended a relationship of 3 years. They really, instinctively, think it's pathetic and need tons of outside conditioning and reflection to get over that notion.

>leave ishigami to me

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He did tell her to fuck off.

>miko exposed as a shitty goblin
>ishigami has absolutely no romantic interest in her

I'm not even fully onboard for a tsubame win anymore, but this does put a smile on my face

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Even though the original Japanese/Korean was a lot less harsh. She was still kind of being a bitch. It's like Miko Iino can't love or something.

>women everywhere
Are you a telepath?

Wow, Miko really is a fucking piece of shit in this chapter.

>Women everywhere hate men that cry.
And they're right, men are only allowed to cry when their family dies.

IMAGINE BREAKING YOUR ARM AND ENSLAVING A GUY AND HE STILL WON'T FUCK YOU

ABSOLUTE STATE OF MIKOKEKS
ETERNALLY FUCKING REKT

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>left her to cry in the guest room

We couldve hit 1000 replies but you came here to post instead

i can't believe how many waifufags in this threads. I hope it's just vocal minority, not actual fanbase

We need another chapter with a titledrop.

Guys where's Michlan? I'm worried, he isn't answering his phone...

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MIKOLINOBRO

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All of the women in this manga are psychopathic manipulative SHIT. ALL OF THEM. EVERY SINGLE ONE. SHIT.

>I want to rape him right here right now, but I'll probably make him sad again.

She still downplayed his feelings and basically blamed what's essentially the victim in this case.

MIKO KIINO IS BASED AS FUCK

sorry I mistranslated 4 bowls of ramen as 42

First time anyone's been serious about a relationship with that harlot. YOUR PROOF IS NOTHING

miko a shit i will be forever mad at her

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> Iceguya's off-hand comment about Fujiwara made Subject F so paranoid about her weight, that she has become a tryhard while continously failing by ignoring reality

Fujiwara is going to become fat, isn't she?
> in b4 Prez becomes her weight loss coach

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Not a Mikofag but I unironically like the powertripping direction she's going in. Even if it's just a front like Maki was implying.

Kaguya threads have been infested with self inserters for years. They take any slight at Ishigami, or sometimes Prez, personally.

Its okay TL user.
Thanks for your work

Unironicaly based,incels and pruityfags eat a dick.

Ishi is just to pure for this world

It's worse than that he fully commits to the girl who rejected him while lino was like 10 foot away

>MUH GENUINE

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This chapter literally throws Ishigami and Tsubame back to status quo, Ishigami still thinks he needs to confess after he gets better, Tsubame still thinks she has a few months to answer his confession.

I have been out of the loop for awhile, but when did miko have such a change in personality?

Sounds pathetic.

Nah she's a cunt. Nobody asked her to jump in. She's drunk on power.

When she realized that Ishigami didn't actively hate her anymore, but instead ignored her in favor of another girl.

I'm not really into ships, except maki because she is a bro. That said i often come just to laugh at mikofags. They are insuferable so this chapter was like a god send. Based aka.

youtube.com/watch?v=6n3pFFPSlW4

hmm, 4 sounds more reasonable. Thanks for correction

You should be able to be sad when you’re sad, when bad shit happens.
Would you cry when your girlfriend leaves you, or your mother dies?
If you can’t cry when bad shit happens now, you’ll find yourself without the capacity

Does Onodera like boys or girls?

>Prez tries to teach Fujiwara about dieting but it comes off as self-starvation.
>Fujiwara instead teaches Prez about how it's not bad to spoil yourself once in a while.
>Then Prez teaches her about not over-doing it.

Mommy-Son combo-chapters are always best-chapters.

I am not sure we were reading the same chapter.

>Maki was implying
sadly, Maki is not a love master.
so, you can't trust anything she say (if you are not asking for her aunty, of course)

>Nobody asked her to jump in
Yeah she should have left Ishigami to die

Yeah, because it would have been so much better to let him die, dumbass.

she likes ponies

>coach role reversal chapter
YESSSS

Did you even look at the early spoiler thread and thread from last week?
Mikofags completely had it coming.

>implying he would've died

It's not really any different, Miko is super autistic and her trying to console him came off as shitting on him. In the present she isn't aware of her own feelings but is using this opportunity to hold his attention. Not really OoC imo anyway.

Could've lead to the infamous amnesia arc. No-one would like that.

>Is now fully aware he's pursuing her and knows she's aware of it
>HURRR DURRR STATUS QUO

Reminder that you niggers don't understand what that word means. He wasn't aware he had even "confessed" to her during the festival.

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If you say so. Ishigami is now around her 24/7 - a fertile ground for interactions and relationship to develop, Tsubame route is done.

>Maki spent her Christmas alone.
Considering that she was raised like Kaguya, this is sad as fuck. No wonder she even would want to have a Christmas like Ishigami
Also
>Ishigami's dad hitting him.
I bet that it wasn't just a small slap in the back of his head but a strong slap on his face

He doesn't even know why she is "unsure" how the fuck is he going to tackle that?

I want Maki to win but she clearly have issues with Tsubasa
Who will save her?

The translation from the jp snippets said he outright punched him

Lets be honest, we all know who ishi is going to end with because if the titles of the chapters implied something was that he is going to end with a handful of shit. But, hey its not about the destination but the journy.

>all these posts
This week's gonna be fun

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I'm starting to get convinced that Aka is a hack.

This same shit happened to Tsubame fags last week. I swear the worst part about what this arc did to these threads is making either side think they were in any way better than the other.

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never? she is same. What we saw just her new side of incompetence. Which is not make her as character worse. Rather, better

>Ishigami is still fully committed to Tsubame after Tsubame showing her bad side
>Miko have to guilt-trip and cockblock Ishigami just to monopolise him
This amount of coping is unhealthy for you user.

I am better than them though.

>Ishigami shows emotional vulnerability.
>Yea Forums calls him a bitch.
>Miko also (unintentionally) insults him trying to cheer him up
>Yea Forums calls her a bitch too.
>Tsubame has complicated feelings that she can't solve properly.
>Yea Forums calls her a slut.

I feel bad for anyone who's ever been in a relationship on this site since nobody has any social knowledge whatsoever.

I wonder if I should point out that Ishigami only got back on his feet after Miko "encouraged" him to do so.

I mean, enjoy your happy weeks (maybe months) while you can, I'm not cruel enough to rob you of that.

>everyone thought the child abuse arc would be about Kaguya
>it was Ishigami all along

>Yea Forums is one person

is it just me, or doesn't it seem like the Tzeentchian Daemon Princess has tons of chemistry with the nerd who is just as bullied as the Thousand Nerds?
pretty sure Fujiawara & Ishi was endgame till Aka decided to add & literally ram Ilno down our throats

I'm glad you have confidence in yourself user even if you're kinda retarded.

>since nobody has any social knowledge whatsoever.
Where do you think you are?

4channers are dumb as bricks and 100% trying to become chad even though it’s literally impossible for them.
Everyone is cool and aloof. Crab bucket mentality

Welcome to Yea Forums, now fuck off.

Not having any friends does that to people.

You all have no individuality and just parrot the same memes behind anonymity. So yea, this is a hive mind.

>Wanting to change you whole persona just to be liked by somebody else
Fuck this shit
And once that fake persona crumbles down? Then what? Prez was fucking right. Same goes for Kaguya. If Tsubame rejected Ishigami for something and he thinks that he must change his whole personality, then it won't last long and you'll end up losing yourself. And it will be way worse if the girl it's ok with that.
This fucking guy became a fucking total idiot. He's no longer based

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>>Miko also (unintentionally) insults him trying to cheer him up
Miko was less trying to cheer him up, and more obviously telling him to fix shit with Tsubame because leaving shit as it was would be a terrible idea.

It's not about changing his entire persona retard. It's about improving himself. Like when he tried to get better test scores.

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>He admits to being part of a hivemind

I'd say Ishigami but he can't even help himself. They both are completely lost
Damn

>wanting to become a better person = making up a fake persona

SEETHING Mikotard

I can taste the salt from here.

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>Being this retarded
I wonder why i share board with brainlets.

Go back

everybody here has autism go figure

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now the roles are reversed:
If Miko isn't able to have sex with Ishi during the next 3 months he will leave her for Tsubame again.

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>does it hurt to break your arm
>only at first
Maki, NO!

Maki knows what's up because she lived this before

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what is whole persona thing you talking about? His idea of changing himself to be liked by her is probably around getting better grades, or being sociable. It's not changing personality, it's adding upon it. It's not even close to Pres situation.

>Mikofags shitting on Tsubamefags for the last week + early spoiler thread
>now pretending to be neutral
Fuck off fag

>projecting

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Ishigami needs to get over his oneitis
It will never work out with Tsubame

We 8-manning out here

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>ishitgami = tsubasa 2.0
he deserve to be a toy for sluts
absolutely disgusting

>unintentionally

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Hes right tho....

And then she reveled in his suffering afterwards.

This, they will be separated by 22 minutes of train travel. It's over, Tsubamekeks. I bet she's going to have a wild university social life, poor Ishi about to get NTRed.

Holy fuck Ishigami stop being so goddamn miserable shit fuck go a dump her you fucking retard holy fucking crap. Fuck Miko, Fuck Tsubame, Fuck Ishigami and Fuck this manga I want Kaguya and Prez back in my life.

>>And once that fake persona crumbles down?
it's not making a fake persona.
It's BECOMING the fake so it becomes real.

Ishigami is A REAL MAN, after all.

i actually wonder how this gonna play in future. I really wanna see Stuco interactions right now...

Is this your first romcom?
This shit always happen in any romcom with more than one potential love interest.
It's just the usual waifu war, that's all.

I'm convinced that Maki or Ono will win. This is all setup and Aka is aware that Miko is a bitch. Hopefully she will lose the Ishi bowl and become a better person.

why are you so AB Miko anya poster?

I don't get it. Tsubame proved herself to be a turbo slut, don't want to date her and Ishigami still wants her?

So true, I am a womanon and can relate

>Tsubame will answer Ishigami's confession in 3 months
>Miko can claim the heart pendant in 3 months
>Ishigami will be spending those 3 months with Miko because of her arm

It's over

>I wonder if I should point out that Ishigami only got back on his feet after Miko "encouraged" him to do so.
I think there's an issue where people can't understand Miko's particular brand of autism. Miko understands that Ishigami ending things with Tsubame the way he did would be awful for everyone involved. We can see that Ishigami still has feelings for her and wants to make things work. So Miko berates him for how he's acting by leaving Tsubame like that, implying he should handle things better.

Miko then freaks out when she sees him crying. She doesn't want him to cry and tells him to stop. There are definitely more polite ways to tell someone "I don't want to see you cry", but she's Miko. She then reaffirms this after she catches him on the stairs. In that moment, Miko shows through her actions that she was genuinely worried about Ishigami and was scared to leave him alone. What she says afterward reaffirms this, and once more she tells Ishigami that he shouldn't be crying. She's the one with the broken arm, so his situation really isn't that bad if you put it in perspective.

And as of now, Ishigami seems to see it that way. The situation with Tsubame isn't unsalvageable to him anymore.

>fat tits
>fat gut
>fat cheeks
>full figure

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I was always pretty neutral about this. Miko was 100% gonna fuck trying to console him and that would lead to her getting hurt. I was wrong about the present day stuff but tyrant Miko sounds kinda fun so I'm into it.

I know it's hard to believe but people don't need to choose one extreme or the other in this retarded argument regardless of what they ship.

Finally somebody with a brain here.

I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone complain yet about how the arm break was portrayed as being barely painful. I remember some anons were worried about that in the past threads.

>tfw I don't like either Miko or Tsubame.

Feels fucking bad

isn't she said literally how painfull it is? Her putting strong front in that scene was actually cool

>Previous chapter made me hate Tsubame
>Now this chapter made me hate Iino too
Adding that up, Ishigami stopped beign based (and I don't like him that much anymore).
But this chapter made me want to know more about Maki and how will she get over that idiot and her dangerous friend.
Also I didn't realized how much I've missed Fujiwara

I think her lines on that panel implied she was trying to be tough, after all if she's not crying after breaking her arm than he shouldn't be either for one setback in a still salvageable(as he proved) situation.

She was already imagining the things she'll make Ishi do so that deafened the pain

if the pattern continues, you'll hate Fujiwara next chapter as well

Doesn't healing a broken arm take like 1,5 month tops?

Are you not liking them as characters or as ishi love interests? Cause i don't really care about them as romance, and i still like last three chapters.

oh

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Or maybe:
>people with similar opinions tend to gather togheter
>each time you see a commonly discussed topic in some way or the other in someone's post, you start associating that opinion to an opinion you don't like and by that you "fill the holes" with your mind all on your own.
>you associate opinions you don't like to other opinions you don't like generating like so in your mind a "hivemind persona" that you start to believe must be a representative of every single person in this place, while instead it's just a blurry silhoutte of many different overlapped shapes.
In short you're a generalizing retard, and you fail to understand the implications of the same anonymity you brought up.

Well his father owns a toy factory

How so? Fujiwara and Ishigami never hanged out with each other unlike her and President.

President shared his secrets with Chika like how he sucks at everything unless trained and coached.

Meanwhile, Ishigami only told Kaguya his secrets.

The trust level between Chika and Ishigami is way different than the trust level between Chika and Shirogane.

Ishigami's confidant seems to be Kaguya while Shirogane's confidant for majority of the manga was Chika.

MAKICHADS RISE UP

>But this chapter made me want to know more about Maki and how will she get over that idiot and her dangerous friend.
For real.
Ishigami is too good for Tsubame.
But Maki also is too good for the other two.

Well, Tsubasa took Shirogane's advice about being a Fake Chad so seriously that Tsubasa spiked his hair up and wears fake earrings on his ears now, giving him a delinquent appearance.

Ishigami never showed up his true self to Tsubame, and he was already changing to make himself more likeable to her.
Holy shit, Miko talked like a bitch like never before (I think) and became drunk with power and attention. This will come back to bite her ass.
Also, damn, Maki is getting worse with her obsession, but also revealed a little bit of her dark past

Is Maki popular in Japan? She is the cutest

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Maki will mentor Miko and solidify her place as best girl.

I don't like them as either, honestly. Though I have to say that Tsubame at least is a little more interesting as a character since before she was basically bland as hell.

Never broke my arm but I have a relative who broke his fingers and he said broken finger is much more painful than a broken arm.

He wasn't a doctor but he said he feels his broken fingers were more painful because the fingers have way more nerves inside a finger than inside an arm.

Oh fuck
Don't forget Hayasaka too could have that fate

Maki is a total bro who is always listening and looking out for her friends. I'm convinced Aka is doing this on purpose and she's gonna swoop in for the Ishi win.

literally who

>Miko talked like a bitch like never before (I think)
You can sort of read a more benign intent underneath it all, but she's just not expressing herself well at all.

Maybe if she got rid of the stupid pigtails she could get over Tsubasa

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>tsubasa

I'm not only one, who got startled by thinking who the fuck is that, right?

Actually, I don't care anymore.
All three of them became shit with this last arc

I work in a hospital and it's a lot of times seen as weakness if you cry about a patient as a guy because it's considered being "unable to keep your cool"

Funny part is every one of us in critical care has had to step out of the room because we didn't want our patients to see us crying. It's a weird culture of don't cry but we all know we all cry.

He only punched him because Miko told him with details how his son run away in tears from a girl that offered him sex and nearly broke his neck on the stairs.

it's the first time someone confessed to her. before she would have emotionless sex with the schools entire football team

I would hit anyone in that case.

Based Karen shares your sentiments

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Shirogane confirmed for better genes than Ishigami.

Ishigami's father is already balding. Shirogane's father has a full head of hair on the other hand despite having such a stressful life after becoming unemployed and the separation from his wife.

Also, surprised Miko's father wears glasses

The fact that she could possibly "tough it out" is portraying it as being much less painful than it actually is. Well, at least less painful than those anons were saying it was. It's not like I've ever broken an arm myself, but it still seems unrealistic to me.
She also said that it was painful "only at first", when Maki asked her about it.

She actually does look a bit like Miko here, doesn't she?

Not even that

I could never hate Hayasaka

Should be Miko's best friend taking care of her instead of Ishigami, though, since she is a female and can help Miko in the bathroom.

Isn't it awfully strange how Miko's best friend disappeared once she started dating the 3rd year?

>Ishigami not dying yet falling 14+ feet forward. Outcome having him on his back facing the stairs.

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He didn't fly so good.

>genuine
Ishigami wouldn't know genuine if it fuck him in the ass. He's doomed to be a beta closeted homo.

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>Tsubame still in the bowl.

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This might be true but I still think the intent is to prove a point to him.

>Hacka

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It's honestly not that painful. It's just a lingering, mild pain and swelling that increases if you do things with the arm.

>Otterfags celebrating
Kek

What if she NTRs Kaguya, while making fun of Kaguya, Maki and Ishigami? Or what if she becomes a turbo slut like Tsubame?

In case you genuinely can't imagine how it happened
I think Iino grabbed him from behind when he tripped
But she couldn't stop Ishi from falling so at least she turned them around
That way Iino cushioned his fall, he didn't fall on his head and Iino landed on her side which is the least evil
It's honestly fucking impressive she managed to make that split second decision, it makes me genuinely respect the fat midget

Sounds like something a massive fruit would say.

Miko's going to peg him?

Imagine if he died. Tsubame would hang herself.

>I think
Stopped reading.

what if when they fell down together, ishi's rock hard laser death beam went in miko's fat butt

Miko is slowly becoming the dominant partner, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened him their abusive relationship.

Fucking newfags

>tfw Ishigami died on the stairs and everything that happens after that is just a delusion made by his mind before shitting down

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lmao you can't die falling down a flight of sta

Cope harder Slutbamefag

Ishigami died after perfoming an hero in middle school and the entire manga is just his dream

Aka doesn't know building codes.

Those stairs are too narrow for a high rise building. Stair steps should be wide enough for firefighters carrying heavy equipment to go up the stairs without worrying about tripping or falling.

Was a guard rail even present in that scene? For such an expensive looking apartment, you expect better.

She's a master of tsundere. She may not be a love master in general but she's great at recognizing when someone makes similar mistakes. The chapter where she was giving Shirogane advice shows that when she thinks someone's being tsundere, she's probably right.

God, ishigami you idiot, you're supposed to have sex first then go from there to build a live long relationship.

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>Namefag seething
Kek
Where is your friend Michlan?

>Was a guard rail even present in that scene?
It was, to the right from Ishigami.

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It's not the first time. His dad got him during that middle school incident.

If it doesn't fit with fire safety codes it's accurate to japanese buildings

Yes, because current news shows us how much Japanese builders care for fire codes.

>building codes in Japan
Hasn't recent news taught you anything?

Is her hair suppose to be dead swallow?

People who do that are promiscuous. Ishigami is clearly not a promiscuous guy.

Douche.

Not an argument.

>He thinks Aka wouldn't go to the building himself to make sure everything is like IRL
Who do you think are talking about?

>"Help, help!" he screamed. The men began to lower the basket. Just then he remembered the shell and thrust his hand into a nest. There was something hard there. He seized it, but lost his balance and came tumbling down. Instead of coming down in the basket he came down thump on the hot stove.

>His men lifted him off as soon as possible, but he was badly burned and bruised. In his hand he held a shell, it is true, but it was a bit of eggshell, and the egg was spattered all over his hand and face.

>He decided that this was all he wished of the shell from the swallows' nest.

>By the time his burns and bruises were healed he had forgotten all about the princess, and he never climbed up to peep into the swallows' nests again.

Sex is king in relationships, bro. unless your a social minority.

>Manages to not hit his head on the way down.

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Why would I need one?
I am just laughing at you.

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i was at SA b4 coming here, you go back dickwad

Imagine going from this relationship to being Iino's gofer and fetching her cheese hotdogs or cafe au lait on command.
How the mighty have fallen.

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BASED, SLUTBAME IN SHAMBLES!

I don't want Maki to be just some nerd's dream

Ishigami is dead to me. DEAD

it's atonement for the sin of trying to kill himself and hurting someone else in the process

Well, this was boring. Nothing happened.

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It's atonement for the sin of being unable to operate the shoes that are already fucking laceless.

>tsubame goes from slutmode to retardmode
>iino has ishigami by the balls
>hayasaka still trying to kiss fujiwara
read it again user

Prays for Fujiwara, sleep tight otter.

Sorry can't fuck that perfect gymnast body because it's not genuine enough.

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Yeah, we knew all of it

>What's wrong with eating ramen, is it illegal?
>is eating ramen prohibited by the law
Goddamn this roller coaster of a manga. Five seconds ago I was sad. Now I'm laughing.

this

Is it retarded for me to think that the issue of Tsubame's virginity is still up in the air? Maybe the "it's a first for me too" is doing the pity or thank you sex or whatever the fuck you want to call it. Still stands to reason that she may have fucked casually before, no strings attached. No thank you, no pitying, just fucking. Not sure if it was left ambiguously on purpose or just something lost in translation. I hope the shitposters from the previous threads who kept on saying that casual sex is well and good latch onto this point so there'd be a thread up everyday again for the whole week.

>Ishigami's shitty love triangle drama
>Fuji breather chapter
>Kaguya and Shirogane's cute as shit date
>Hayasaka's despair-ridden chapter
There volume done.

Ishigami you had one job - to protect the smile. And you failed.

This but seriously, not shitposting

>Rebound.

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He owes her his life.

This rodent will kick you in the balls and call you a piece of shit for not having the patience of a saint, and will then enslave you after she saves your life, right after she antagonized.

Say something nice about her.

Yes, you are a dumbass. From the chapter where she talked to Kaguya i was pretty clear she wasn't the slutty type, she was just fucking dumb, and thought she owed Ishigami something.

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She is an awkward virgin.
Aka don't have the gut to actually make her non-virgin.

Get over it,
unless you want the next 300 posts arguing over the same thing again.

>s-s-she's totally a virgin guys she said so herself
>h-h-her hymen only broke during work out long ago so no worries
>s-s-she wasn't on pills and didn't prey on Ishigami's dick from the start of the party
SHE'S 100% PURE IT'S CONFIRMED

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Why are people saying Ishigami is in a love triangle since he loves Tsubame and she cares about him but doesn't know if she loves him back? Where's the third love of the triangle?

IshiGAYmi

>Say something nice about her.
god i wish that were me

>she was just fucking dumb
Just like Ootomo
J U S T

I wish Miko didn't save him so we could see Tsubame realizing what her sluttery did

>It's the first time I've decided to offer up sex to an underclassman with long hair who confessed to me in this guestroom on a Tuesday night holiday
Yes, you're retarded, did you think people were actually getting walked home gently, too?

Where is chapter?

you've angered the gnome
she will steal your socks now

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IIno being a tsundere cunt who is obviously into Ishigami but too deep in denial>Ishigami into Tsubame>Tsubame considering stuff.
Classic love triangle, really.

Some character named Lino or something... Think she saved Ishigami this chapter can't remember.

I want Karen to show up in the main series again, maybe to stop Maki from breaking her arm.

>Makes Mikokeks go from gloating to coping in just one chapter after the previous one

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in previous thread

お前はもう死んでいる

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I'm not buying the awkward virgin type, to me it's more likely that she's the type that can't handle relationships seriously. As for her conversation with Kaguya, it's more like she doesn't want to go into relationships casually but as many anons (some just shitposters) have said previously and I think this one's fair to assume, it seems like she differentiates between sex and a relationship, or being in a commitment.

>Say something nice about her.
She may be a tsundere cunt, but she still saved his life and was trying to communicate something more positive than she did.
Miko wants his dick. Maki can tell she's a fellow tsundere.

Meanwhile Chika hates helping Prez and Kaguya likes helping Ishigami.

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The point about the hymen is probably true, there's no way in hell it's intact considering her flexibility.

He gave her a severe case of PTSD, especially the singing chapter that just killed her considering how musically gifted she is.

Won't Ishigami be free once it heals? Will Aka seriously have her arm stay injured for 3 months in universe?

Based Aka.
The threads are like rollercoaster I loved it.

I broke my arm when I started high school, I fell unconscious from the shock rather than the pain, but I do feel incredible pain right after I woke up
It's hard to describe whether it's painful or extremely painful, in any case imo it's not that painful and you can endure it for a while until the medics arrive

stockholm

*She differentiates between the two, meaning she doesn't think of sex as a part and parcel of being in a relationship. She treats it differently, that is, casually. Something about commitments irks her. Whatever, I don't want to get into this shit again. It just pisses me off that the way it was worded/handled left room for speculation, no matter how tiny, instead of it being cut and dry.

Is this Miko's father?

Of course he will and it'll be revealed it healed way before and she was using it to keep him around.

Karen

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Chika feels NTR when she sees anyone else help Shirogane besides her, though.

She can't stand someone else helping Shirogane.

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I think Miko will come around and eventually support Ishigami asking senpai out again

The dancing chapter was literally mommy vs gf, except mommy was right.

>type that can't handle relationships seriously
You're missing her entire characterization or turning a blind eye to info shown already. She does not like casual shit, she said so to Kaguya, and turned every single one of them down. She also likes romance, and even explains her older brother got married with a similar confession done in heart's festival.

The problem is that, she never had a heartfelt confession done for her (probably because they all thought they'd get turned down), and she is scared of a relationship now, because, even though it's not THAT far, it still requires an extra level of commitment compared to people in the same school dating after she leaves for Uni. It's not just that, but also some other smaller stuff, she's unsure, and she isn't sure on her feelings for him either.

Then she entered a dumd mindset of "oh, maybe I owe him something, I wouldn't want him to get angry at me for not at least allowing him to stay with me once", and when she realized he wasn't just after sex for the sake of it, and liked her for real, she backed off because she realized offering sex like that was going to hurt him more, but it was too late, and she made it worse.

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As a Tsubamefag, I gotta say, the salt I'm collecting from you autists about Tsubame's character development and role in Kaguya-sama: Love is War will never stop being delicious. Makes up for all the Maki shitposting we had to deal with. Tsubame WILL be the decisive winner of the Ishigami bowl, and your shit waifu will lose. The sooner you come to terms with that, the better. You Tsubame haters are nothing, absolutely nothing, and you will never be anything. You can easily tell someone is an adult male virgin when they are actually attracted to girls that are only has a nice body and offers no relevance at all to the story except to serve as a romantic plot device, like Miko or psychopathic selfish sluts who only seeks to pleasure herself, like Chika. When you kill yourselves or die of a coronary infarction before you turn 40, no one will ever remember you and the world will be better off without you toads in it. You semen slurping faggots will never amount to anything. You are garbage, and nothing will ever change that, just like Rei or Kei or Karen or whatever waifu you like has no chance of romancing Ishigami.

Also reminder that Tsubame is the best designed character in Kaguya-sama: Love is War. God it must suck to be you.

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Not that far off.

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Nobody cares about your headcanon

Kaguya failed in helping Ishigami, though.

Shirogane would have helped Ishigami hit a home run with his love advice just like how he helped Tsubasa.

Momo's advice about faking being a Chad worked for Shirogane and Tsubasa, when it concerned Iceguya and Kashiwagi.

Meanwhile, Kaguya is the last person who should have been asked about love advice since it was Hayasaka who bailed out Kaguya through her phone messages to Shirogane.

>tsubamekeks are happy with the little bone Aka has thrown them to keep their hopes up, not realizing that this chapter basically confirmed mikoishi

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>GOD TIER
Prez and Kaguya
>GREAT TIER
Prez and Fujiwara
Ishigami and Fujiwara
Ishigami and Onodera
Hayasaka and Fujiwara
>OKAY TIER
Prez and Hayasaka
Ishigami and Maki
Ishigami and Tsubame
>SHIT TIER
Ishigami and lino

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It was rap that almost killed her, user.

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>Also reminder that Tsubame is the best designed character in Kaguya-sama
Excuse me?

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Her advice WAS on point, he almost scored but he sperged out.
Kaguya got him sex, Shirogane would have given him a proper relationship in a year.

Kaguya helped Ishigami be more honest, he would've never had the balls to confess ages ago and he still has a shot based on this chapter.

Is that the face she'll make when Ishi rejects her immediately without hesitation?

>no it's ok that you broke my daughter's arm. i don't really care about her

What the FUCK does this look mean Aka???

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>best designed character
>literally just a ripoff of pic related

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>Assumes i'm a Tsubamefag even though i'm poking fun of deranged shippers

I see he made you cope harder than I though. Shippers are truly below human.

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>polar opposite
Retard

Did you rike it?

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Isn't it strange how the parents of people in this manga aren't strange in anyway.

Chika's parents looked totally normal.

Ishigami and Miko's dads looked normal.

Isn't a story full of rich people suppose to have Eccentric Parents? The only weird adult in this manga is the School Principal so far.

I guess Kaguya's father may have quirks but all we see is just his lower body for now.

>Some anons are retarded and don't understand Miko wasn't telling Ishigami he should have fucked her

She meant to say, he shouldn't have left without talking about it more, not that he should have taken the chance and had sex.
The problem is that, she downplayed his feelings, because "you're a man, so it's probably just dumb pride", and asking if it was really enough to cry over, like a dumb cunt.

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>Kaguya got him sex, Shirogane would have given him a proper relationship in a year.

So Shirogane would have given Ishigami was he actually wanted.

As for Kaguya's advice: The road to hell is path with good intentions.

>side character confronts main villain about his evil plan

No, because in the real world being dubbed a "nice guy" or being "too kind" is pretty much a death sentence. Fucking hack

La Pianista arc when?

Then why doesn't she stop being tsundere and accept that she does like helping Prez? What kind of mom doesn't know about their son's fragile self esteem?

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>Won't Ishigami be free once it heals?
Depends what you mean by "free". After three months, Miko's probably going to be openly into him, and making things awkward.

Ishigami will break the illusion of her thot like ways.

>She does not like casual shit, she said so to Kaguya, and turned every single one of them down.
Once again, she never said that. All she really said was that she'd only gotten casual confessions up until this, she never said anything about rejecting all of them. We all just assumed that. It could really go either way at this point.

G O M B L E G S

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No, you will not keep doing this.

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We don't really have enough screen time on most of them. Papagane is definitely a giant goof of a person, Fujiwara's dad is a major puritan, or scared his other two daughters end up like the eldest and bars a bunch of shit on them, and Hayasaka's mom seems to love teasing despite her emotionless face.

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>She does not like casual shit, she said so to Kaguya, and turned every single one of them down.
Reread the chapter. Tsubame never once, ever, says she dislikes casual shit or that she turns down "every single one".

>What if she NTRs Kaguya, while making fun of Kaguya
based

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>Chika's parents looked totally normal
>Ishigami and Miko's dads looked normal
Do you really expect politicians, judges and company CEOs in a realistic setting dress like JoJo characters?

I would have fucked her and made it work.

This. Ishigami got friendzoned

What is Maki refering to here? Her abuse of El Hermano?

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I was hoping for Chika's mom and dad to be at the christmas party but it didn't happen.

Heck, Chika's pet dog didn't even show up. How is that possible? Shouldn't the dog be in the backyard when Kaguya and Shirogane stepped outside?

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>he thought i was speaking to him specifically and not tsubamekeks in general
That's some serious self-centered thinking you have there. as expected of Fujiwara

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She actually looks a lot like Miko, doesn't she?

>implying every Miko chapter isn't Miko Iino is a fucking bitch, the chapter

He fucked up, she saw him as a mate until he fucked up about genuine memes, now in her eyes shes a just a friend.

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In Onodera we trust. Fuck Miko.

Well, Chika's dad did marry someone with pink hair. I thought Miko's father would be wearing a huge wig of gray hair as well. As for Ishigami's dad, he is suppose to be CEO of a Toy Factory. I expected Santa Claus as Ishigami's father.

Ishigami isn’t a senile boomer who’s body is physically falling apart. He can survive a trip down a flight of stairs. You retard

>Ishigami, I'm thirsty
Indeed she is

There really isn't anything conclusive here, except if you stretch it that since they are talking about rejecting someone, it means that every casual confession made to Tsubame was rejected too.

>Yea Forums suddenly hates Miko
What happened?

Forgot pic, fuck

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At this point I have to wonder what will it take for her to give up.

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based touman quints

Miko became Demon Lord lino

Boys, Dicks first, feelings later. Dont be ishigami

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Teen pregnancy arc, which will happen somewhere between February and March

For the shit that this chapter is. It made me like Maki more.

>being a manslut

He will never get a chance to fuck her prime pussy ever again.

>the girl experts of Yea Forums
This isn't how it works at all. In fact, the fact that he said no to her would make her like him even more.

> Maki
> giving up

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That's just artistic license, she'd have black hair in real life.

If a girl sees you cry in real life, she won't fall in love with you.

Miko forcing her way into seeing Ishigami cry means she won't be able to fall in love with him.

You aren't suppose to let girls see you cry in real life.

>Iino isn't guilt tripping him guys, it's just banter
>Iino isn't being unreasonable and wanting attention despite acting annoying with him, and ignoring all the warnings he does for her sake guys
>Iino isn't being a cunt for talking shit to a broken hearted man guys
>Fuck you guys, I like Iino anyway, Tsubame a slut

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No, she saw his weak side and it made her know him better.

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Someone shoots tsubasa

Tsubame is a slut, at least lino is a pure cunt

as a friend.

gold

Is Fujiwara a better match for Ishigami?

We'll see in the next chapter

>Ishigami does a 360 that subverts everyone
based

Im kind of mad because this chapter implies she did like him and it wasnt a pity thing, it was just clumsy to say the least.

The way this was translated before bothered me so I thought I'd give my thoughts
It's true that in the first panel Maki feels a mysterious stinging pain because Miko reminds her of herself (the japanese translation said "old wounds")
In the second panel, however, she just remarks that Miko's stubborn/obstinate personality will be problematic and says she's glad she found out about this side of Miko sooner rather than later. I don't think she's referring to herself in this thought bubble. Basically, she's terrified of Miko and who wouldn't be?

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Since she broke her arm his puddings aren't mysteriously disappearing anymore so it's all good.

but my dad taught me that its okay for a man to cry and anyone who says don't needs to be bawling at your mercy as well

Yup, Ishigami is literally me.

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PREPARE YOURSELF SUBJECT F

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My dad taught me that drinking is bad, by example. I hate my childhood

if you are okay with women talking shit about you you are a fucking cuck and a waste of air
kill yourself

>Mikofags getting dabbed on
>TsubameCHADS making a comeback

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kyoani was a bunch of pedophiles that deserved to burn for making borderline animated cp

I want to hay her in the sack if you know what I mean alternatively I want to sack her in the hay

>cringe
still a wh

Do you think Miko will abuse her position and do something that will genuinely hurt him, or piss him off hard enough that he will stop helping her entirely?
I mean, I thought that was a little far fetched at first, but after seeing just how uncaring she was to his plight, and making it seem like he was the one better off in that scenario and should just swallow his sadness, and is now reveling in making him miserable, and interrupting him, i'm not so sure anymore.

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So.. what did Tsubame mean by saying "You are to kind"?

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Wait boba is makes you fat?

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whatever do you mean oh wise one

>Unironically still liking Tsubame despise showing how shit, slut and shallow she is in these chapters
Fuck with Miko too. She was a bitch before but now she's somehow even more shit of a person.

>Basically, she's terrified of Miko and who wouldn't be?
No one remembers that Miko is literally THE genius girl of her class and almost certainly capable of being a devious little monster should she be given the chance.
Double translations have issues. She says it's "not about like or dislike", not "It's not because I don't like you".

She´ll do whatever she wants to do, she doesn´t really care about Ishi´s feelings only her own. Kaguya or prez will have to stop her at some point.

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>Tsubame always acts kind to Ishi and he still got hurt
>Miko sees this and decides to just treat him like shit because he's gonna get hurt no matter what because he's a soft bitch
Iino has very subtle character development. Really one of the series more nuanced characters.

>She says it's "not about like or dislike", not "It's not because I don't like you".
Damn, that's even worse

he's doomed and she'll forget about him once she leaves for college

But Prez is someone who has traits beyond being nice.

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FUCK MIKO
BASED MAKI/ONODERA PEEPS

The better question why the fuck he became her manslave. Helping her out because of guilt is one thing, but what he has to do for her goes way beyond that.

I am /literally anyone but the fat midget/ so I am rooting for you.

>goes from bitch to autistic cunt
Yeah, super nuanced.
She's still poorly written.

English is not my main language but nice sounds like acting in a proper and considerate manner, while being kind refers to the nature of a person so it involves a deeper meaning. It may just be my own BS, does the raw use the same word?

soon...

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the Korean scans actually says literally "it's not a problem of like or dislike", the guy who made it into English changed what she said to something else

>the state of these last threads
It's all so tiresome.

Because he's a decent person and she's guilt tripping him to hell and back because she gets off to being able to control him.

She risked herself to save Ishigami's life, and was very obviously concerned about him all the while. Unless you think Miko pushed him down the stairs.
She clearly cares about his feelings. The whole time, she was trying to convince him to fix shit with Tsubame.

There's two type of being called kind.
The first one is being called with a still smile that has no signs of being embarrassed.
The second is being called like that but she has a raging blush on her face.

If you got the second one. You might have a chance. The first? Just give up.

While shitting all over him in an extremely vulnerable state.
That's not how you care about a person.

>She clearly cares about his feelings. The whole time, she was trying to convince him to fix shit with Tsubame.
> instantly proceeds to cockblock him when he tries to work things out

Even if she cared in the past, that part of her is gone now.

Because she keeps guilt tripping him, and enjoys being in control.

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>very obviously concerned

Won't Ishigami lash out at her when he's out of her control?

Basically, the context of calling someone "nice" (at least here in burgerland) is that you don't have any real compliments for them. It's the default pity answer, a "nice guy" is someone who girls don't have an actual interest in because they have no real attributes to be interested in.

That weirded me out too. At first she was trying to help, now she's cockblocking him. I think it's because after Ishigami almost killed himself, she's pissed at how miserable Tsubame is making him so this is her way of helping? Pretty sure that's what's going on with Miko but it isn't any less retarded. It's fitting for her character I suppose

Ishigami has been out of character for a while now.

No, maybe some snarky remarks but he understands it's his punishment to a degree.

He's more likely to lash out if she abuses her position too much, and starts becoming unreasonable in her requests, or frequency.

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I don't know if it's because of the translation but I don't get it. Why does Ishi think Tsubame wanted to have sex with him? She implied that she likes/loves him but the circumstances prevent her from getting in relationship with him but he acts like it's his fault for not being good enough? so, what gives

No, she's clearly jealous of how he changes himself for Tsubame and wants to relish in being in charge of him.

>Pretty sure that's what's going on with Miko but it isn't any less retarded.
>he should keep being miserable
Her words.

Miko's autistic. It's clear to see that she only really knows how to berate and scold people.
It's pretty clear that she's got a shit ton of mixed feelings. To some degree, she wants things to go well between him and Tsubame. On the other hand, she also wants her completely out of the way.
Just look at her facial expressions and mannerisms when she notices that he's crying. She's freaking out over it.

GANG

I think it can also be construed as being a doormat which is what Ishigami's doing right now. At this point, if Tsubame doesn't think that what Ishigami's doing is pathetic and so making her call it off herself but for real this time, it's time to start the hackposting

Should this be changed?

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He loves Tsubame.
But Tsubame doesn't feel the same way and offered him pity sex.
So in order to have a proper relationship where they both feel the same, he's going to become someone she can fall for.
It's prez-lite development because Tsubame isn't nearly as hard as Iceguya.

He was never the same again.

>keep being miserable but due to my own malicious actions (muh distractions) instead of being miserable due to heartbreak
Like I said, it isn't any less retarded but at least it makes sense

>Her words.
The meaning is similar to "serves him right to be miserable". The japanese wording is the kind you use when gloating over another's misfortune.

>she's pissed at how miserable Tsubame is making him so this is her way of helping?

She's drunk on power and wants to see him suffer. People tend to forget that she was bullied alot in the past. Now that she has power over Ishigami, she has become the bully herself.

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That's your literal headcanon and nothing like that was in the chapter.

Can he really manage that in 3 months? Won't Prez make sure he doesn't go down the same path?

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How the fuck can you still go on chasing someone who offered you pity sex after you confessed, for fuck's sake

Every relevant character in this manga is cute and deserves happiness.

Stop being hypermanbabies. And keep Maki away from stairs

I know what the japanese says, she's literally gloating while thinking that's what he should be.

She wanted to "give" him something to remember. She's scared of starting a relationship, since it will required a bit more commitment due to not being on the same school anymore, and school in Japan goes from morning to late afternoon. It can be worked around like she said, but she's still scared of starting anything, and isn't entirely sure on Ishigami yet, but she still didn't want to hurt him.

Basically, she was dumb, and thought sex was a good gift for him, until she realized he was way more serious than she thought.

Her first concern when she heard about Ishigami confessing was the very valid issue of her being way out of his league. If anything how she broke him on Christmas just helped validate that concern. But she doesn't know how to help, since she is bad at handling herself around others.
Miko is a good girl, but somehow retards here are dead set on demonizing her for the sake of their ship.

That's what she did but that user is saying that wasn't her intent. Miko is literally too autistic to help him without falling into the mutual antagonism they've always used to communicate with each other. She was definitely trying to give him advice to help him but nothing about her actions besides saving him showed that.

You are right but the argument isn't really that she did the right thing here, rather that she fucked up while trying to do the right thing.

Obviously every speculation would be """headcanon""" at this point until we see Miko's thoughts instead of her dialogue with others

I think Miko spells out her thoughts well enough. Ishigami used to resist literally everything she told him, and would never do what she said.

Now, finally, Ishigami is listening to her. This is her petty revenge for all the times he was uncooperative and rude to her. Now, Ishigami has to do what she says. So yes, she's drunk on power until she gets bored of it.

He loves her, boys in this series do extremely retarded stuff for the girls they love, no matter how little they deserve the retarded amount of effort they put into it.

I know, I'm retarded for not figuring out the shitposting, my bad

I love Lino!

Maybe because nothing outside saving him showed even the slightest hint of her being a good person?
She berates him, shits on him and now treats him like a manservant through guilt because she enjoys the control.
Tell me what part of that is being a "good girl".

>ishi gets hospitalised

For what we know about Miko, it would be extremely out of character for her to act maliciously against someone, be it Ishigami or Tsubame, even if she were jealous.

In her twisted way she sees this as justice: She multiple times felt humiliated by him, now he is on the receiving end as it should be.

>You didn't have se... with her?

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You faggots said it wasn't her intent to guilt trip him the first time either you fucking retards, and now look where we are. How can you be so sure she didn't intend to shit talk him when he got rejected?

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find me one that isn't better match than Miko

But we know she's an extremely petty person with a hard on for control and correcting people.
So here we are.

It's clear from her "You really are too kind" reaction that Tsubame doesn't love Ishigami, she just feels bad about him, it's nothing but pity. It's also clear that Miko realized Tsubame doesn't love him, so she will turn into a complete bitch in the next chapters to keep him away from Tsubame in a fucked up attempt to "protect" him from more suffering and another rejection from Tsubame.

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I do wonder what Kaguya has to say about this whole debacle.

Won't this lead to Ishigami not loving her over Tsubame which'll lead to the title of Miko Iino cannot love coming true?

She treated him like she always did.

>it's nothing but pity.
>melts into an absolute puddle at his love declaration
Yeah, she totally feels nothing about him, your stupid Miko theories are 100% spot on and she's a saint.

He should have left it to me, Shirogane "CASANOVA OF LOVE" Miyuki.

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Yeah, she just really wanted a pina colada at the exact moment she saw Ishi getting attention from Tsubame at the party. And a drink at the exact moment she saw Ishi and Tsubame making up. Pure coincidence.

I don't get girls.

Don't do this to yourself Mikobro.

well
a lot of folks hope that what you said is exactly what's happening

It wasn't the time or the place to do so, and she can pick up basic social cues well enough so
>Miko is autistic
is not an excuse for her being an absolute cunt to a person who's feeling like shit.

it's not gonna be pretty
desu i can see Ice reemerging here and there

>In her twisted way she sees this as justice

That's what the card game probably means by "Childish Justice". And only through Ishigami, it can become "True Justice". Her behaviour will backfire sooner or later.

>miko gives a shit about ishi
Rip ishimiko

YOU BOTH DID WHAT TO MY CUTE LITTLE KOUHAI?!

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>Yeah, she totally feels nothing about him
Tsubame does like Ishigami a lot, just not in a romantic way. He's a very nice guy after all.

Agree on the first part, disagree on the Miko speculation. The "too kind" line pretty much killed his chances.

Jesus Christ, how much of a mockery of Justice can Miko become? Was the point all along that Ishigami being the Dark Knight is true Justice?

I think the Miko Iino cannot love thing will end up referring to the fact that she just straight up doesn't know how to love. She tries to do good like in this chapter but her inability to understand the things and people she cares about ends up causing her to fuck up and behave badly. Miko can't love or be loved in the way she wants until she starts growing up.

why'd you have to phrase this post like this? fucking asshole

I'd friendzone ishigami.

Isn't the kind part a callback to the exact same line to the party?
Just a reference to his name, I mean.

i think its hot when ishigami gets bullied

Ishi never came off as a soap opera character to her, so she probably didn't take it seriously.

>ishimiko is more popular than ishibame
>aka gives a shit
Sasuga Aka. I want prez x Hayasaka now.

>all these mikofags trying to rationalize

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Is this even friendzone. In a manga world its usually the different kind of thing - but since its Aka everyone's so cynical about

> prez x hayasaka

based

Ishigami is for suffer, Aka said so.

we know miko

The amount of denial from Mikofags is still hilarious, and ignoring blatant hints or tropes.

>Sh-she can't possibly like him romantically at all
>He's friendzoned

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Being a Kaguya tier controlling bitch to someone she likes

i don't think Tsubame will stay on receiving end of Kaguya's wrath for long
especially if she lays out her own guilt and regrets for what happened
Miko, on the other hand...

As a matter of fact, being kind is harem MC's #1 quality that makes very bitch wet.
>MC-kun is so fucking yasashiiiiiiii

I want him to introduce a new boy for Hayasaka. We could use one more boy, we haven´t had any new characters in a while.

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>Berates him
Because she's in charge of upholding the rules and he keeps breaking them for no good reason other than 'fuck school rules'. Plus she has to actively save his ass from another punishment by lying every week because of that.
>Shits on him
And he does exactly the same to her, yet it's been agreed that he doesn't do it out of hatred or ill will.
>Treats him like a manservant
Dude was so out of himself he almost suffers an injury. He clearly couldn't be left alone that night. She' bad with people and did what a social retard could. And it fucking worked, since Ishigami got over it. Plus she wants to get to know him better. Her way of doing it is cheap as fuck but it's still cute compared to the the Kaguya gaslighting ways. Her claiming to enjoy control was her being so obviously tsundere even Maki had to comment on it.
She's jealous. It's pretty much the same as when Tsubame lied about the time. Not nice, but not evil either.

> I do wonder what Kaguya has to say about this whole debacle.

She's currently too busy tonguewrestling with Prez. Once she recovers from love-drunken retard mode, she won't be happy about the results.

Good thing this isn’t a harem

Okay
>generic LN MC
and that's what Ishigami's storyline is, happy now?

I want a tall muscular chad I can self insert as

that's where you are wrong bucko

I finally understand why both of them are embarassed of talking about how she broke her arm. Ishigami for the fact that he fell some stairs and was saved by her, and Miko for the fact that she secretly followed him to have a chance at all to save him.

When the FUCK are Abe and Shiranui showing up?

consult a brain doctor. you have a case of the retardism.

the new boy will be for miko because i don't see a way she's getting together with ishi

She's like Kaguya, except she lacks any self awareness of her own faults and pins the blame squarely on other people for her misfortune.

She's not intentionally being a bitch, because she honestly feels this is how things should be for her and Ishigami and doesn't understand why its wrong.

Hence the chapter title.

maki needs to win the ishibowl

I´ve been waiting for them, i guess Abe will be introduced next?
Hayasaka has been around since chapter 3, i think she´s got dibs here.

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Yeah

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God I want to suck on Fuji's wiener.

just accept the fact hayasaka is going to be gay for fujiwara

Who is top tho?

From last thread

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I want to say Fuji because Hayasaka is a ball of fluff deep down, but she's a hard M.

Well, that's pretty obvious from what we've seen. First Miko Iino Cannot Love was her wanting to do a bonfire, getting resentful of Ishi paying attention to Tsubame and not supporting her, but biting his head off when he finally offered to help. Second Miko Iino Cannot Love is her treating Ishigami like absolute shit on the surface, though you can see that she's genuinely worried about him and his situation. It seems like she was so worried, she turned back to catch up with him in time to save him from falling.

This is Miko Iino at her closest to being in love that we've ever seen, and it manifests through her being a domineering tyrant.

Cringe and bluepilled.

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>mikofags crying

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Reminder to fellow Onoderabros to keep the faith

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This then?

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>absolutely mean Fujiwara
>Tsubame love
lol

Fuji x Haysack is a failed ship, they're both bottoms its doomed.

is everyone griping about iino's dialogue with ishi in the hotel forgetting that at that point she was probably still at least somewhat drunk? also, how did they explain that at the hospital

>bet retard let tsundere absolute suicide happening
rip Maki. Ishigami, you failed at being a bro.

Don’t use words you don’t understand

>this was in the first part of Miko Iino cannot love

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Retard

Exactly, there needs to be some reading between the lines here since it's clear she doesn't mean exactly what she's saying. It's not at all an excuse as much as a fact to say she legitimately doesn't know any better. Until she does she's not going to have the relationship she wants with Ishi. The title is more personal than what we were speculating before, the goal of her character arc is to understand how to love which imo means more than just a romantic relationship with Ishigami.

>generalizing a handful of idiots and ignoring the rest of the (also largely idiotic) mikofags
Maybe I'm just not enough of a waifufag to to be seething but I don't mind Tsubame sticking around. The last two chapters really made me like both girls a lot more. Tsubame made a few mistakes but approaches Ishi again about it as maturely as possible.
Miko while clearly naive still has largely good intentions. She sees her broken arm as an opportunity to manipu- I mean try to change Ishigami for what she perceives to be the better. This will backfire in someway eventually but for now powerhungry Iino promises to be entertaining. She'll have to face her own fragile ideals eventually, flower drama, growing as a person, having one-sided interest towards Ishigami yada yada...
I'm still 90% sure Miko will be the one to end up with Ishi, I simply don't see what kind of arc Tsubame would have.

This, Haysack needs a dominant guy (maybe another ninja sent by Kaguya´s brother?).

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>oh stop miko
lol

I'm glad Ishigami and Iino trust Maki enough to basically give her the full story while telling Kashiwagi to pretty much fuck off.

>I simply don't see what kind of arc Tsubame would have.
Whatever she's lying about, that's her arc.
She may be even dying for all we know.

Is that the arc Aka has planned then? To grow out of this childish domineering tyrant nature and actually be loving towards Ishigami?

El estado absoluto de la goblina enana del Japón

She needs a man of color that will make her feel like a woman.

The Iino Maki thing was so out of the field, they haven't interacted even once.

i volunteer for that role

They had to tell Maki when she walked in on them acting like a couple to explain the situation. If they hadn't, she'd have a mental break down and burn down the school

That seems pretty likely. It's going to end with Miko Iino being able to love.
Her book cover quote was about learning to love, was it not? "Humans learn to love, even if they are not loved"? Of course her arc isn't about getting into a relationship with Ishigami without character development, and of course her arc is more about that character development than fucking or dating Ishigami. If we look at the character whom she takes inspiration from, and I think some nip twitter brought it up, she'll likely wind up discarding her shame by the end and do something thoroughly embarrassing like the dude who sends his sappy love poetry.

Did he have to include the part where he almost fucked Tsubame?

Disregard Ishigaymi, Maki is the one who deserves happiness.

Ishigami represents everything that is wrong with men nowdays

Truth be told, I like Tsubame and think Miko came off way unsympathetic this chapter but I still expect the hamster to win

He had to tell her he's still a virgin like Maki. Otherwise, he'd be on Maki's kill list

Yes, that's what bros do

Well this isn't happening for no reason that's for sure. She has to learn how to love without letting her childishness hurt people and her going mad with power over him in this tsun stunt is as good of a time as any for that lesson.

Eh, I feel like her lying is just Yea Forums looking for deeper meaning too hard. She had enough surface reasons to reject him already. Tsubame obviously likes him to some extent but not enough to commit already. Hence, Ishigami wanting to become someone she could commit to.

And dying? I really hope not, Aka avoided outside forces drama (secret fiancé and other typical soap opera bullshit) so far completely. Artificial drama like that would be weak as hell.

Stop with the reddit spacing.

After looking at the chapter again, I still wonder what the deal with Onodera and Miko is. Onodera was pretty relevant in that particular chapter, too.

And how is Onodera going to react to Miko's & Ishigami's new master & slave relationship?

she'll be one of the first to tell her to not go overboard with how she's treating him
however, as a passive observer she won't do much unless things get really out of hand

I just a want Ishigami to be unhappy.

I really need to get caught up, but from little of what I've seen this past month, it's clear he's going to fall for her just out of familiarity. As long as she doesn't drive him away by being a total bitch that is...

Onodera is just waiting for Miko and Tsubame to clash and fight it out, then she'll swoop in at the end to claim victory.

I'm a mikofag and I kinda expect Tsubame to win, but Ishigami and Miko to become good friends with each other and help each other develop.

I'm hoping for Onodera chapters to develop their relationship. She has the role of someone in the same year who has "forgiven" Ishigami for the shit he did in middle school and recognize his growth. They also play off each other pretty well

Yes, learning to love without being loved is a good description of this current situation between her and Ishi, like I've been saying even before this chapter, she has to be the change if she wants their relationship to improve and that requires understand her imperfections and becoming self aware of them so she can actually start being honest with those she cares for instead of the roundabout shit she did in this chapter that ends up hurting people.

[x]

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You shouldn't talk to that cuck, he'll think he's a human being.

but why

Fuji status: FAT

I like her eyes

Absolutely based and chadpilled

Probably being rough on Tsubasa only for him to get "stolen away".

I think IinoXIshigami is going to happen, but Iino becoming the new Maki (finding out she likes someone then that person starts dating someone else) would be an interesting twist.

>senpai already genuine feelings

Damn these threads are fast

THE FIRE RISES!

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I genuinely want to drop this manga

[x] SEX BREAK
[x] FEEL FUCKED

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Ishigami is clearly a bottom.

This. He must remain /ourguy/

Sure you do user.

I hate you for making me see this.

Actually doing some research into the story so I actually know how Ishitsukuri no Miko turned out. It ends on discarding the bowl, representing shame, and apparently became a saying for behaving shamelessly. As he apparently kept hope and continued making advances after failing his task.
>she can actually start being honest with those she cares for instead of the roundabout shit she did in this chapter that ends up hurting people.
I think that's what her "discarding of shame" is going to be. Her becoming honest with herself and others.

Realistically, Ishigami should be able to get any girl from the School's Gardening or Flower Arrangement Club to fall in love with him.

Is aiming at a 3rd year just too difficult?

A new boy would have to be based on Japanese Mythology, though.

Emperor Mikado is extremely obvious and there are other males from the Tale that have not shown up in the story in person yet.

>Maki represents the bad end for both heroines.

Truly Kino that is. It'd be funny for Maki to confront Miko about it before it's too late/

>"MIKO, YOU HAVE TO FUCK HIM. IF YOU DON'T, YOU'LL END UP LIKE ME AND BE A PATHETIC THIRD WHEEL WHO CAN NEVER MOVE ON. GO MIKO, DO IT NOW!!!"

Ishi is too focused on the ideal, and not adapting to reality. He wont get anywhere because real romance isn't like his manga

1) Miyuki Shirogane (492)
2) Kaguya Shinomiya (487)
3) Maki Ichijo (486)
4) Kazune Abe (478)
5) Taiga Arakawa (475)
6) Saburo Toyosaki (474)
7) Nagisa Kashiwagi (471)
7) Koichi Sumitomo (471)

Some males and females? still have no character design

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Ishigame just needs to man up and stop being a little bitch. If Tsubame doesn't want to be in a relationship with him, then move on. Don't let other people pity you.

Ishigame is letting other peoples opinoins affect his own self worth. No wonder he fell in love with the first girl who was nice to him. People who have no self respect do that. And now he can't let go because his self worth is tied to weather or not someone else loves him. He also needs to not let Miko guilt trip him. She can go fuck herself. Don't let others drago you down.

Ishigami training arc when?

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He need to learn to love himself first.

But he lives in a manga

Onodera's best friend seems to be Sleepy Eyes Chan, the girl who tried inviting Shirogane to go to Class Karaoke with everybody.

It would be weird for Onodera to get involved with Ishigami due to a slightly different social circle even if they are part of the same club.

And Onodera's male friends are considered Chads of the school.

Ishigami might not be Chad enough to hang out with other males besides Shirogane.

Listen here, smartass

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Exactly

A man can't love himself if he's week though. A man who is weak is painfully aware of it. Therefor Ishigami needs to become strong. Strong enough to be the main character of the sequel manga where it becomes a battle shounen

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>his self worth is tied to weather
>a man can't love himself if he's week
Let's easen up on abstract concepts.

git gud scrub

I didn't know Maki was about as good of a student as her auntie

Holy shit i knew Yea Forums was full of autists with no social experience but reading the past couple threads was just painful

donde estas puto?

Not very convincing when you post a picture of a roid up monkey that died because of it

>In his despair Ishigami moves to Russia, he does not find the happiness he was looking for.

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When a man becomes too strong, he simply leaves humanity behind.

Ishigami did everything wrong

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>sequel manga is a battle shonen starring Ishigami

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his fault was to walk out instead of talk out
and letting be doggy whipped by Miko

That's definitely a possibility. I wouldn't rule it out considering this is Aka we're talking about.

I notice a lot of /fit/ e-celebs tend to die young, especially the males.

It's kinda sad in a way.

He died while inside a Thailand Sauna, apparently.

This. Ishigame after being rejected by Tsubame completes submerges himself in weight lifting. So jaded he does not want relationships with other people. Instead of forming bonds with other people he focuses solely on becoming stronger. In his isolation he begins to loose perspective on and ultimately rejects his humanity all together. He completely adopts an egosits ideology and is now only out for his own personal happiness, useing his new strength to obtain more at the expense of others. He is the only thing that matters in his world and others are merely accessories or tools. This is a complete inversion of his character.

Ultimately, papagane will be the only one with a strong enough physic presser and resolve to kill Ishigami before who do any more harm to everyone, and himself.

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>implying it wasn't already foreshadowed that muscle queen Kaguya will save the day

Based r*dditor. Upvoted!