Star Trek

>handles racism better than any contemporary show

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That's what great about sci-fi. You can discuss delicate social topics that even when people don't realize what the true allusion is, they will still gain positive knowledge from it instead of hitting them over the head with a too obvious reference.

>In the future people won’t care.
Gene was too good and naïve for this clown world.

I think about that scene a lot.

It’s been 55 years and things are only getting worse in terms of race relations. At least that’s what they want us to believe.

Things are obviously are getting better, but you can’t be left-wing if you don’t have anything to oppose. If there’s no boogeyman, you can just make one.

>>handles racism better than any contemporary show
ladies and gentlemen, may i present: the jews of space.

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they are because leftist politics is dependent on promoting racial division

Eventually, as war and arms become less profitable, Gene’s future will emerge.

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Exactly.

Quark is a great character and a total fan favorite, though. Not to mention they're created by the lead jew creator of the entire franchise.

What's annoying is seems no one involved in Star Trek really saw what Roddenberry was alluding to with his optimistic and adventurous vision of the future.

In that future, blacks act like whites and aren't hated. Imagine that. Perhaps racism isn't caused by a dislike of a person's level of light reflectivity and is instead caused by behavioral tendencies.

>What's annoying is seems no one involved in Star Trek really saw what Roddenberry was alluding to with his optimistic and adventurous vision of the future.
one thing i got out of it was how it can be based so far into the future and we still have the same shitty problems.

>Quark is a great character and a total fan favorite, though. Not to mention they're created by the lead jew creator of the entire franchise.
the ferengi are the best thing to ever happen to star trek. they are fucking marvelous.

They’re space Yankee Traders.

You mean upbringing.

>They’re space Yankee Traders.
space jews, user. but close enough.
>You mean upbringing.
it's always this.

Avery Brooks is too based for NuTrek.

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Riker literally compares them to Yankee Traders in their first episode.

well, they couldn't justt say "look at those fuckin jews!" on tv. that would have caused them to be cancelled. "yankee traders" is a compromise.

im not watching star trek

Quark was played by a Jewish actor. It’s pretty clear that the Ferengi aren’t just a racist caricature.

>Avery Brooks is too based for NuTrek.
truly was. a damn fine actor that would not have fit in with the shambles that is nutrek.

Okay, but who asked?

The OP.

He didn’t ask (You) shit, nigga. A statement is not a question.

It's kind of depressing seeing how little hope people infuse and imbue in sci-fi. It's just feels like every sci-fi nowadays tells a tale of violence, destruction, and war in a desolate and hopeless universe rather than hope, faith, love, and friendship prevailing.
Seriously, where is the retro futurism optimistic feel?

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Any Black person who acts white is problematic.

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Star Trek Beyond was the last piece of Star Trek media that was truly optimistic and aimed to capture what Roddenberry was trying communicate.
It was back in 2016, and it actually made people optimistic about Star Trek. Then Discovery came out…

>Beastie Boys Trek
>aimed to capture what Roddenberry was trying communicate.
Delusional JJcuck.

>55 years ago
>”we learned not to fear words”
>2022 AD
>NuGuinan cries about racism in 2024
youtu.be/2BBOWsWODX4

>yfw the Dominion were the actual Jews of space

>shapeshifters who often take the appearance of a victim species in order to subvert them
>but also have an endless horde of brutal soldiers
>care only for total power
>worshipped by their slaves

Guinan isn't a part of Starfleet.

>Seriously, where is the retro futurism optimistic feel?
There's no optimism for the future of the west. Everyone deep down knows it's coming to an end soon. trek was made only a little while after racial segregation was abolished.

Take your head out of your ass and actually think about the themes that were explored in that movie.
Also, JJ didn’t make that one. Maybe you’d know that if you’d actually watch the movie instead of obsessing over one fun scene that lasts 2 minutes.

It at least felt like a future you would like to live in, but it was very very stupid, and the groundbreaking plot of "guy from the past wants revenge and has a superweapon" was snoozes

>fun
Kill youself.
And JJ was the producer for the movie.

What makes Beyond different is the fact that Krall was an ideological villain, while for Nero and Khan it was personal.

>muh producer
He didn’t write it. He didn’t direct it. It’s not JJ Trek.

>Oh no, the descendants of the slaves we imported centuries ago and treated them badly, even though they were only different from us in appearance and everything else was invented by religious idiots, are now more violent and less educated. Sure, there are countries (e.g. Russia) where whites also grow up in catastrophic conditions, resort to alcohol, are insanely violent and stupid, but I prefer to ignore that. I prefer the very simple explanations that make me believe I simply am better LMAO.

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>Doesn't count!
It's JJ Trek.

How can it be JJ Trek when he didn’t have any creative input?

>Krall was an ideological villain, while for Nero and Khan it was personal.

what, it was also personal, he had that whole thing in the Franklin logs where he was raging about not getting rescued

but lordy, every single JJ movie was "villain from the past wants revenge and has a superweapon"

at least the TNG movies only went to that well once

Not him, but it's the Kelvin universe, where everything is dumb and loud, and everyone's running everywhere and punching each other and the Enterprise gets massively fucked up every movie

Same continuity that he created, he was a producer on the film, and it's still his universe as seen by him directing and producing the Kelvin Star Trek 4.

Wrong. Edison was already pissed when the Federation decided to make peace and “break bread” with the Romulans, and put him in the captain’s chair of an exploratory vessel, even though he was a war veteran.

He was xenophobic and isolationist, and he had every reason to be. It was realistic that a soldier with PTSD would end up like his way. Compare that with the current season of Picard.

>him directing and producing the Kelvin Star Trek 4

please god no

>Kelvin trilogy ends on a high note after getting rid of JJ
Not if I have anything to say about it!

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It never got rid of JJ, and it never ended on a high.

why did they give Lincoln grey lips

>muh beastie boys
Get over it already. It was a fun movie that felt like a feature-length episode of TOS.

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>Wrong. Edison was already pissed

That's fine. But they had to put in the log where he was yelling and raging about how they weren't getting rescued

>He was xenophobic and isolationist, and he had every reason to be. It was realistic that a soldier with PTSD would end up like his way. Compare that with the current season of Picard.

Both are extremely, extremely stupid.

>you see, Krall thinks unity is a weakness! So he's going to use this bioweapon to kill everyone on board some space station, which will prove his point! And Kirk has to punch him in the face to stop him!

what?

compare with something like The Dark Knight, where the big action stakes are a couple of ferries getting blown up, but in reality the stakes are whether or not humans are basically good, which was the Joker's whole point, and it's infinitely more compelling drama.

It was a thoroughly mediocre movie with a couple of dumb fun action movie sequences. It was much much better than the other two though, especially the miserable series-killing disaster that was Into Darkness

>the Dominion
yeah, a little bit. but they represented a lot of different species and worlds, and not all were aligned with the goals of what the federation had in mind. reminded me of america vs. the world, and the dominion were the evil communists.

It'd only feel that if you never watched TOS and only experienced it through memes.

Yorktown represented everything Edison despised, a pacifist multicultural snowglobe, something Quark mentioned when he was talking about root beer.

Beyond deserves more credit for casting a Black guy in the role of a raging racist Nazi.

>JJ Abrams
>killed Star Trek by turning it into Star Wars
>killed Star Wars by being a raging OTautist who rejected Lucas’ scripts
How does he keep getting work?

How come Ireland is a civilized and operational country?
>Muh siberians
Not even white

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Same species, different phenotype. Genetics prove this.

Beyond was fun, because it paired different characters together. Kirk and Chekov, Spock and Bones, and Uhura and Sulu; they were all immensely fun.

I don't think that's true. Anyway how come Ireland is a civilized country even though England raped them for centuries?

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it's true until it's not, then you disregard genetics and classify it as racist