Brian Cox Planets

I really don't understand this show. They get the host to walk on Iceland to explain some discoveries on outer planets.

And the discoveries were so few and diluted they had to add many irrelevant demonstrations.

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Brian Cox is also a massive bellend.

they want people to think they're being educational, but the more detail they put in, the more people get scared off. Hawking once mentioned that every time you include an equation in a book, you cut the potential audience by half. science shows are like that.

really all they want is Carl Sagan or someone like him peering up and muttering "billions and billions" while Vangelis synth plays in the background and they spin hubble pics slowly on the screen.

This show should've been made in the 80s and 90s when Voyager, Pioneer, Galileo were discovering a whole range of stuff about the outer plants

I hate equations too. But I would like some more illustrative diagrams

They used all these high def CGI but they didn't use one arrow mark. All they need is to put two planets side by side for comparison and it would have been clear.

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This show mentioned exactly those missions. They first describe the planets plainly, then bring up some questions "why is Uranus axis different?" Then they directly give you a theory.

I feel that the description sounds easy. The question is beyond me. The theory sounds easy again. Of course I know nothing comes easily. But when they compress years of missions and discussions and theory together they all sound like, "what else could it be?"
Of course it could also be that I failed my math class.

the virgin mercury
the chad venus
the fuck it uranus

He's a brainwashed "scientist" promoting retarded ideas for the reddit crowd.
Earth is flat.

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are there any well made space docos available on youtube?

They showed something from New Horizon. It's good.
Of course if you followed science reports you saw that already. But I haven't.

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Thoroughly examines the bad science and the fake footage behind the moon landings.

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I never know if retards like you are trolls or actual retards.

at that point, whats the difference? Either way you'll never convince them they're wrong.

>see this radio antenna?
>ThEy UsEd It To FaKe ThE mOoN lAnDiNg!!!1!

>1.5 meter long antenna
Did you take your stupid pills?

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first time i've seen this video but that does looks suspicious. it does indeed look like the other guy is grabbing a wire on his harness.

doesn't mean i think going into space is fake tho

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Why people can't just read Wikipedia pages on Solar system planets? Its really easy - from Mercury to Neptune, some articles about the moons of planets, some articles about visited asteroids and comets. Its much easiers and controlable learning expirience than watching some show where people narrate to you and choose what aspects are important and what not.

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No, you won't stop hogging the bottle faggot.

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Here is a little test for /tv - what moon is it?

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As weird as the "stringy" movements are, I have to also notice the women's hair. I'd expect long hair in a freefall/zeroG environment to whip around and flow like it's suspended in water. These women have their hair rigidly flared out. Like a centauri noble! When they move their head, all the hair stiffly moves with it.

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I wish we had this moon instead of our Moon. Its blue, its icy, it reflects more light, it has internal ocean, possibly life. Why mom allows Jupiter to have so many best moons?

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more hair

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When this was on PBS NOVA they replaced Brian Cox with Zachary Quinto and put in more diverse scientist interviews. The part where he walks in Iceland was gone.

flattards logic
>they have strange greasy hair because they have no shower in space, so it must be a conspiracy and on flat earth!

Do you not understand that if it were to be staged they would have perfect hair flowing like underwater because they would wash it every day in the studio? The fact that they have greasy hair sticking like that only proves they are in space.

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space fanatics always try their hardest to find some retarded rationalization that makes sense in their underdeveloped brain

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your webms work only on lowest IQ possible niggers, because people with brain can always find rational explanations. Thats the reason your movement is full of morons who are painfull to look at, flat earth conventions are real freak shows where dumbest and ugliest go, its like negative intelligence selection, only dumbest people are attracted to it and then you get increased concentration of dumbness in one place
Respond to this
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I like watching a show
The information is spoonfed. It can be a bad thing but the point is I don't want to learn that much. All I need is just some impression.

>really all they want is Carl Sagan or someone like him peering up and muttering "billions and billions"
This is especially true since Cox is a massive Sagan fan and is just emulating. Same with NDT only he’s a brainlet to boot. Cox at least seems to know the hard stuff.

Edutainment is a really terrible thing to get right. Attenborough documentaries seem to get both accuracy and engagement right. A show like Mythbusters had tons of filler but they basically followed a scientific pattern of deduction every episode. Theory, scale testing, ramped up testing, remove error sources. Also huge audience.
Murricans don’t know it but Time Team is another big success, for televised archaeology. Based in the UK so you get a big cross section of possible finds from stone age to roman to saxons to vikings. It’s brutally honest in that the vast majority of episodes is just digging up a few walls and some pot sherds. But again it’s the mystery of what could be there, the deduction of what they find, putting it in context using historical sources and so on.

Tl;dr DUDE SPACE LMAO show bad

Earth moon

>flat earth conventions
it exists??

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Is there a why???
There probably really is

Yes, that seems suspicious. But maybe that's how the hair "settles" after you have washed it in zero-g. Or maybe not even after washing. That could be how long hair settles after you get out of bed and gravity is not pulling it down.

Better scientists than Iceland I suppose

Check out this channel, it picks up the best moments of this freakshow
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really, don't go into this unprepared, prepare to be baffled by idiocy and don't for a second think your arguments will work on these braindead zombies, they have like a textbook programming and they will respond like bots to any of your questions or arguments, using all kinds of rhetoric tricks.

I don't get the venus one. Is it really the only planet right now with a north magnetic pole at the bottom of the planet? Earth's reverses commonly.

>I'd expect long hair in a freefall/zeroG environment to whip around and flow like it's suspended in water. These women have their hair rigidly flared out.

Static electricity buildup or greasy hair makes the hair stick to itself because that small force is the most significant in the absence of gravity.
It’s not a Loreal balsam commercial.

>didn't know this was even a thing
>look up some clips on jewtube
>keep waiting to hear Cox's voice
>never happens

Whomp Whomp.

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Look at how the watch moves around.

Why the fuck would it flow like in water when air is much less dense than water

I think it's not a question of magnetic poles but a question of rotation.

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jupiter has even weirder magnetic field
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but nothing compared to uranus we know little about

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the rotation is reversed, sun rises in the west and sets in the east

Ooooh, duh. Thanks anons

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What is the black thing?

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Thats the thing - they set you a wrong expectation and when reality doesn't match the wrong and misplaced expectation they convince people to have - they cry "Hoax". The same with lunar landing conspiracies. These retards never been to the moon or dealt with engine nozzles, but they pretend to be experts in how the rocket engine exhaust is supposed to affect the regolith on the airless body. I mean they never been to the moon, they never touched regolith, they know nothing about vacuum, they know nothing about engines and their plumes at what distance they can leave burn marks in space, but they will have you believe that the moon lander was supposed to leave a giant burnt crater underneath it, and when this wrong expectation is not what you see in reality - they will cry "Hoax! Now buy my book or watch my videos and donate to my channel"

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How can the camera track the ascent stage? Preprogrammed servomotor?

does this look like Earth moon to you?

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I haven't seen this yet but his Wonders of the solar system and universe series are good

it's a miniature model

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I believe Venus also rotates extremely slowly so that a day takes longer than a year.

>Why the fuck would it flow like in water when air is much less dense than water
It’s almost like using known world proxies to analyze images from low or zero gravity works poorly.
It’s like the people who get bent out of shape about the bunny hopping on the moon. Astronauts picked that up from the mere experience of being there. It looks stupid but it was easier.

This is also why sending robots and probes everywhere isn’t a great idea. A person can adapt to a situation in seconds. Trying to predict all circumstances a bot can encounter and need to work around is impossible.
Simple shit like dust clouds covering solar panels have fucked up missions. All it needed was a screen wiper or basic arm that had a brush. Not in the plan.

Yes, it worked only on Apollo-17, but it was also on apollo-15, 16 lunar rovers. Those idiots were failing 2 times before they got this right, but conspiracy idiots who never done any research were crying and still saying "who was lifting the camera, did they have a cameraman left there?" The same idiots still fail for this argument STILL
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>Preprogrammed
Yes.

This just seems like lag in the video feed.

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Sometimes I have it when watching porn and I really doubt amateur hungarians use a green screen.

The signal coming from the ISS is bouncing from satellites when ISS is not passing over recieving station and that signal could also be affected by atmospheric disturbance in stormy weather, there are so many variables that can disrupt the signal but flatshits never for a second think about any rational explanation, because they want their own idea to be true because it means that every country in the world is in a conspiracy to hide God and they - flat earthers - are the smartest people on the planet and chosen by God to see the truth, they have enormous ego problems and low intelligence so arguing with them is pointless most of the time. Really - what you can tell to an idiot who thinks he is smarter than all scientists in the world and chosen by God to see the truth to change his mind? He will never exchange this story for the story where he is the dumbest looser on earth because he fell for youtube videos scam artists and other fools errors.

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The CIA thanks you schizophrenics for poisoning the well with your retarded ramblings.

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Really?

Why can't they make boring and information dense documentaries like they used to all the way from the 50s through to the 90s?

Its almost as if since visual TV production has advanced the content in its substance has suffered, we see the same in nature documentaries too.

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What is supposed to be the problem here.
We're not insane like you, so we don't see the images you conjure up in your head.

>boring and information dense documentaries like they used to all the way from the 50s through to the 90s?
Ascent of Man and Civilization are outdated and wrong in many respects now but are worth a watch for being the old way of telling history. A slow steady climb out of darkness and ignorance toward the light of knowledge on the backs of the great men of history.

Very aspirational.

You can see his little finger grab inside his pocket. Am i supposed to believe something else?

I was a flat earther back when it was a joke. It was basically an extreme position of doubt that declared everything needed more proof.

If you’ve ever tried to explain all that you take for granted about your worldview it’s actually really hard. Most people don’t know about the greek experiments with a stick and a well for instance or how that would show that the earth is round as well as give a roughly correct estimate of size.
Through the flat earth you’d have to dig down and defend the most basic facts using as simple as possible science and it’s really fucking hard.

It’s like anonymoose though. You start something in jest and you’re soon surrounded by true believers. No matter how dumb it is.

>visible harness
Where?

Why are ALL flat earthers evangelical christians?

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this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

The Bible mentions "corners of the Earth". Round Earth can't have corners, and God didn't lie. The only "legitimate" flat earthers I've encountered are crazy religious or regular crazy.

They aren’t all. But some are because the bible literally has four corners of the earth in it. There are no corners on a sphere.

>he doesn't know all porn is fake and sex itself is one big hoax

I can 100% assure you it isn't

He starts spinning around his own axis without momentum.

nerve gas

He probably gave that momentum by springing his toe or an ankle, it doesn't require much

The earth is an oblate spheriod, like my hpv

>oblate spheriod
No one likes the guy who corrects people on this stuff. No one who says "Earth is a sphere" and means it that literally knows the difference.

People aren't supposed to be experts on everything, they have a family, profession, job, other education spheres. Do you like know everything about chemistry, atomic physics, electricity, optics, microwave radiation, radars, microbiology? You not supposed to know all this stuff, you not supposed to explain it when challenged with some conspiracy about something i listed above.
Flat earthers just abuse people, assaulting them with these questions those people are not supposed to know. Imagine some nasty guy assaults you on the street with chemical formulas and equations, claiming your skin is made out of zink and you don't know it and that by drinking water you actually poisoning yourself, if some regular person not inrested in chemistry doesn't know how he can prove he is not made out of zink, he wouldn't be able to prove that psycho is wrong. But that doesn't mean psycho is right. The same with flat earthers.

>zink

>It was basically an extreme position of doubt that declared everything needed more proof.
We do need this though, too many people these days think "skepticism" and "science" is blindly repeating what you've been told. How many people will yell about how they hate the encroaching legions of flat earthers, but have never even watched a boat go over the horizon?

Callisto or Ganymede

>never even watched a boat
Wow user, I mean, when you put it that way

>Ganymede
Do all moons get literally gay names like that?

I love schizo fake space poasting.

>he wouldn't be able to prove that psycho is wrong. But that doesn't mean psycho is right.
But it also doesn't mean he's wrong. His claim is in the limbo of insufficient evidence. It's not worth acting on, but can't be written off 100%.

They're Greek names, so yes.

I keep hearing that most people just want a "dude space lmao" movie but I've never really seen someone like that.

>Hawking once mentioned that every time you include an equation in a book, you cut the potential audience by half.
Is that because most people don't understand math, or because it's trendy to hate math?

I think just showing things plainly with a solid and authoritative (and maybe abit flourished) explanation will do well.

>But it also doesn't mean he's wrong.
It is when the guy is claiming worldwide conspiracy involving all the countries in the world working together over longer than 500 years.

No, its Rhea

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Everything Cox has made since Wonders of the Solar System has just been a derivative of it. Basically 90% rehashes with 10% new information.

>WotSS is 10 fucking years old

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I-I refuse to believe you!

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>Rhea
That's a moon?

One of many - returning to my postDo you need some TV-documentary to chew it and give it to you? This one is Tethys, imagine flying over it, or landing on it - the views on Saturn would be amazing!

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there are 2 moons of Saturn with giant craters that make them look like Death Star - Tethys and Mimas(here)

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Iapetus too

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It's trendy to hate math because most people don't understand math

I met the guy before he was famous and no, he's not

lapetus of borg, I am borg

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Yes
Also, there are some views of iapetus NASA never released and private image processgin guys access the raw data and do it themselves, getting great pictures, stitching them together into mosaics, check out these
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i can't even upload them so massive the files Yea Forums doesn't allow it

bait

Remember that Death Stars were built in a very distant past, it is still possible that this is a frozen, fossilized Death Star.

I hate that it's cool to hate math. Like seeing something as simple as a linear equation attracts negative responses. And then you end up with idiots who think that they have a valid opinion of complex systems because they can "eyeball it like the professionals do" while ignoring that the professionals rely on math.

Yes. A theory I have heard is that in its past it was struck by a massive object which hit in such a way as to reverse its rotation. This it rotates backwards very slowly. Similarly, Uranis was hit by something that knocked it onto its side.

>People aren't supposed to be experts on everything
You don’t need to be an expert to understand or explain these things.
>, if some regular person not inrested in chemistry doesn't know how he can prove he is not made out of zink, he wouldn't be able to prove that psycho is wrong
If you firmly believe the earth is round and the sun is at the center of the solar system that’s a very long set of axioms you’re just accepting. Asking ‘why’ this is and how you can know it for sure even with simple experiments is useful.
You’re acting as if just asserting shit you’ve been told is real, is real, is a good defence against alternative theories and quacks. But most people believe a ton of quack nonsense and are easily swayed by a good presentation of bullshit.
Being able to explain how you can know the earth is round using two sticks at a known distance and measuring their shadows isn’t super useful in every day life but it’s really useful for your own world view. Knowing how we find things out in the first place, how to question the most obvious things around you is like inoculating yourself to bullshit.
> that doesn't mean psycho is right
Most of the things you take as gospel from your science education will be wrong in part or completely over the next 10-20 years.
If you can’t understand why it’s a constant battle to understand the world just never try and be an NPC in front of the daytime TV. You’re the kind of person they make these DUDE SPACE IS HUGE BRO videos for.

Average IQ has fallen. No market for intelligent documentaries. I haven't watched TV in about a decade. There are far better documentaries out for free on Youtube.

Every Brian Cox show is just him travelling around the world and standing on top of stuff, looking profoundly into the distance

Hey, at least he's not Neil deGrasse Tyson

In the last decade it seems more and more like early solar system formation is full of major collisions.
The Earth has an impact with a Mars sized planet to create the moon. Mars has a collision that flattens half the planet. Venus is knocked on a tilt, Uranus is too. Jupiter is probably fuckhuge because it swallows a ton of debris floating around, planet’s worth of matter.
It’s a lot more violent than we used to think.

It’s also been a wild ride from the 90s when we had no real idea about exoplanets and thought our solar system could be unique, to getting the first exoplanet data and learning almost all stars have some planets orbiting, to jow when we see “super-earths” are real common and once again our solar system might be an outlier.

>that’s a very long set of axioms you’re just accepting.
When you drink coke or take medicine from doctor there is also a long list of axioms you are accepting. That coke is not going to make you blind or infertile, that people who make medicine know what they are doing, tested it, and it will have effect. when you drive a car, use electricity, run a computer there is also a list of axioms you are accepting, like you don't know how the core of your computer works in detail, how every processer or diod works, if there are backdoors, how internet is wired. Endless axioms that we can't check since we don't have experise yet we accept them and function pretty normally

>You don’t need to be an expert to understand or explain these things.
But you have - i bet you don't even understand how orbits work, what is apoapsis, what is propgrade vector, what is plane of ecliptic, what are the kepler laws, what is the orbital resonance, what is eccentricity. You need to have specific terms and to know specific words, and you don't even know them, you can't do math and check it, you don't have a telescope, you never solved equations as a training course to prepare for the job of astronomer of geologist. You need to have specific education to explain these things.

>In the last decade it seems more and more like early solar system formation is full of major collisions.
Yes, and it makes sense. The further back in time you go the more debris there was still left around to crash into things. That's why we see craters everywhere in the solar system but rarely get to watch them happen live. Especially the big ones. If they were still occurring with the same frequency as they did in the distant past then we wouldn't be here.

Of-course, we should note that Earth actually DOES have lots of craters, but weather, vegetation, and plate tectonics obscure a lot of them and utterly erase others.

The appearance or absence of craters is, roughly, how we date the age of surfaces of planets. For example, Pluto was a great surprise because it has regions nearly or totally devoid of craters. This was unexpected as it means that Pluto is still an active world, which puts it in an exclusive group within the solar system.

>It’s also been a wild ride from the 90s when we had no real idea about exoplanets and thought our solar system could be unique
I remember reading an issue of the Planetary Society magazine in the mid 90's that talked about this. Showcased the first dozen or so planets we had found then. It was only then I realized that indeed, I had assumed planets existed around other stars but the actual evidence of them was scarce.

If I'm not mistaken, the James Webb telescope launching next year will enable us to actually examine the atmospheres of these worlds. This will give us a relatively clear look at their environment. If any of them have anything like Earth life then that too would be detectable.

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>It’s also been a wild ride from the 90s when we had no real idea about exoplanets and thought our solar system could be unique
It must have been a very conservative opinion then, because ever since we have the understanding that the Sun is a star the idea that life exists in the universe was very common.

>take medicine from doctor there is also a long list of axioms
It’s not directly tied to how you see the world but yes. And medical malpractice is common so you should get some idea of what the fuck the doctor is doing too. Again you have this attitude of deferring to authority like some spineless bootlicker.
> people who make medicine know what they are doing, tested it, and it will have effect
They also launched medicines that gave us a whole generation of birth defects depending on when the woman took them. Psychiatry drugs that barely work and have terrible sides including suicide. A common painkiller will give you liver damage if used a lot or over time. Do you know which one?
> like you don't know how the core of your computer works in detail,
Can you understand what a transistor is? Can you understand what a logic gate is? This doesn’t require specialized knowledge.
> when you drive a car
Yeah obviously the cunt who doesn’t know how a car works at all, what type of brakes they have, what kind of tire they’re using, if it’s powered steering or not, the turn radius of the car, if the car has passenger airbags or not, is clearly just as good a driver as someone who does know the basics of what a car is and how it works.
You’re literally going to bat for being a brainlet and proud about it.

You only need trigonometry and basic geometry to deal with the flat earth and the solar system. I’m not sure why you’re being an idiot obscurantist on purpose.

>because ever since we have the understanding that the Sun is a star the idea that life exists in the universe was very common.
You’re really an extreme idiot since it’s still completely unknown what the ratoo of life is. The equation for it is just wild guessing.
Learning that planets are common is obviously a good thing but it’s not like it’s sealed the question. We can’t even say if there was life on Mars yet, another data point that would be good for life elsewhere in the universe.
Having you proclaim that it’s fact is just idiotic.

>You only need trigonometry and basic geometry to deal with the flat earth and the solar system.
no, you need more. Again, there could be thousand of questions asked of you for which geometry will not prepare you and when some person X will ask you this question - you will be standing there with the dumb look on your face, unable to explain it, while the drool will accumulate in your mouth. how will you explain optical effects or geologic phenomena based on geometry? How will you explain magnetic fields and their specific properties based on trigonometry? Want an example? Explain to me the motion of a random particle, proton for example, in the van Allen belt, what trajectroy it takes, how long does it live. Explain to me, how it moves, in what directions.

Like I said this is a very conservative opinion. I never said that it's a fact, but statistics say that the probability is extremely high, and that's what most people think since huuuh... ancient times (hence ufo shit etc).

>This doesn’t require specialized knowledge.

But what knowledge is required? Do you born with the knowledge of a logic gate? Or your father taught you that? Every father in every family teaches that? or do they teach that in schools? No they don't, and they can have bad teachers, or bad kids who don't listen. For some reason you pretend that these things are learned with mother's milk that you suck when you are kid. No, those things are specific, less than 5% of the people could answer the question what is the "logic gate" if you ask them on the street. GO, do an experiment and check it. Its either bad teachers, or lazy kids who don't listen to teachers, or bad memory, or lazy people who don't have time to research this on their own because they have things more important than that. YOu are being disingeneous as fuck pretending people are just natural born experts on all things and can explain things without any preparations/

Is this the most attractive astronaut in history?

Calm down, type this post up more legibly and give it another go

Planets around other stars has been speculated about and even assumed for ages, but until the early 90's we didn't actually have PROOF of them.

>it’s still completely unknown what the ratoo of life
I agree with this. I just googled "ratoo of life". nothing.

No, read and answer it, or you just a lazy troll who admits he is defeated. There are only 2 options now - you read that post again, or you try to sperg something funny trying to switch the topic somewhere else from the point that i am making because you failed.

I’m not the user you replied to, just was interested in what you had to say and annoyed that it was written so poorly

I'm just intrested - how will that user explain the motion of a particle in the magnetic field just with geometry. I can, but i need 20 specific scientific terms that they never teach is school to do that. This genious claims he can use simple geometry to explain solar system, lets see how he answers some specific question - lets imagine he is asked on the street that question. Drool is already dropping on the pavement i bet.

that's true of basically every field of study

>If they were still occurring with the same frequency as they did in the distant past then we wouldn't be here.
This is kinda disingenuous considering you're talking about roughly 100 years of serious cosmological observation at absolute best, which is more like 50 with actual technology.

The idea that we would expect to observe large-scale cosmological impacts in our Solar system in that time is ridiculous considering the impacts that shaped the planets as they are happened over billions of years.

>drool is already forming on the pavement I bet
well why don’t you go ahead, bend over and lap it up like you lapped up his shitposts earlier

the issue here has nothing to do with expertise. you wouldn't be able to convince the crazyman you're not made of zinc even if you were world-class chemist. most conspiracy theorists (the cynic might say most people) are beyond the threshold where a rational line of argument has any effect on them.

for me its a victory, you admitting that you are a failure in life and on the imageboard, not able to play the role to the end and defend your point. If we were on stage debating you would probably cry or start cursing like a whore, trying to distract from your own inability to prove your point of view.

a sphere (or oblate spheroid) does have corners. it has an infinite number of them. want to know which specific four corners the bible was referring to? well, only god knows that.

Yeah, basically a bunch of schizos meet up to agree with each other that for some reason there's a shadowy group pouring trillions of dollars into convincing everyone the earth is not flat. I've never seen them explain why anyone would bother doing this though

I know someone who did their PhD with Brian Cox as their supervisor. Apparently the shit sucked balls, he was literally never there and his entire group were totally fucked about what to do beyond the same measurement experiments over and over again. I don't even think he has a group at Manchester anymore, but he's been promoted to an even higher position because it makes the uni look good. Entire groups paper output was literally changing one parameter and measuring it. Can get out 10 papers easy as piss because his name was on it (even if he had nothing to do with it, not even reviewing it) though so it can't have been all bad.

Well, even if these impacts were happening just every million years or every 20 million or 50 million, we might not be here. The point is just that impacts were more common in the distant past. It is difficult to imagine that the rate hasn't changed since the formation of the solar system. That would be very intuitive.

The point is to illustrate to a layman the concept that the ancient solar system was more violent and how we can arrive at that conclusion.

You’re talking to multiple people here you stinky bozgor

That's no moon.

>he doesn't know about Them

yes (?)

looks more like a space station to me

nah, only you are invested in it, no one else does and no ammount of your samefagging from this point on will heal the hole in your ass i tore with my arguments. You are welcome to try, but i will not be reading.

You can believe whatever you want user, you filthy handless animal

You not supposed to convince the crazyman you not made of zinc, you supposed to prove it to yourself with scientific arguments or demonstrations. For example - can you conjure up an argument why YOU not made out of zink? Imagine we are on stage and 1000 of people watching, this should be easy to prove, come on, man, we know you not made out of Zink, but HOW DO YOU KNOW that? What is your skin made out, what are your bones, chemically and how you can prove they are not zink? Its should be easy, do not embarass yourself in front of the crowd of a thousand people! user, shoot out your best 100000 arguments why you are not made of zink. We can't wait. If you will not answer with 20 points in 10 minutes the crowd will boo you and think you are retarded, and will think they are made of zink since you couldn't prove to them otherwise, you really need to think and talk, write fast.

>the guys is standing on stage unable to prove he is not made out of zinc
>the crowd of 1000 people watches him in awkward silence

> people start to whisper "but how do we know we not made of zinc? This guy on stage seemed smart, he can't answer it, neither can i, i am not chemist, i studied arts in university, i never even seen zinc in my life, i sometimes write zink instead of zinc even, how can i prive to myself or my children that i am not made of zinc."

>the crazyman shouts "You've been ZINCSMACKED!"

why though? why do I need to prove that? what am I doing with this information?

>I really don't understand this show. They get the host to walk on Iceland to explain some discoveries on outer planets.
propaganda user

The thing is - you have responsibility to yourself and people who watch you to prove that you are not made of zinc. What if there is a giant conspiracy and you are made of zinc? Have you ever considered that option? What if we are zinc-based life or zinc robots? This sounds ridiculous for you, but you can't disprove it. And its not because you are lazy, but because you don't have the tools for it in your head, you are not armed for this debate, you are like a naked child against an armed soldier, you can't even disprove that you are not made of zinc, you can only cry that its stupid and obvious but you can't prove why you think so. You already lost, and people are laughing at you, since they recorded your inability to prove you are not made of zinc and uploaded it on youtube, whole world is laughing at you, zinclife conspiracy is growing and all because of your stupidity and arrogance in your knowledge that is based on noting.

>still can't believe there are people who can't prove they are no made of zink in 10 seconds time. in 10 minute the fucker was suposed to be blasting 100000 reasons why he is not made of zinc. But he couldn't, maybe he is made of zinc, maybe he has zinc in brains

Oh lol
zincbrains - are you still here? Can you prove with geometry why you are not made of zinc? People are still waiting, you have your last chance.

I unironically like him, I wish he could read me a bed time story every night

You don't need to prove him wrong, you need to set a standard where he needs to prove himself correct.

it should be easy to prove you are not made of zinc, lad. On the way you are proving negative, you could prove you are made of predominatly carbon, but proving you are not zincmeat should be easy - my point was that regular person from the street wouldn't be able to prove even simple science fact or disprove any simple wrong antiscientific position in a science he is not a specialist.

Why do have a responsibility to prove that and not any of a million other irrelevant hypotheticals?
I'm not crying that it's stupid or obvious. That's not the point. Very few things are simple or obvious when you dig deep on a subject. The point is there's only enough time in a human life to ingest a millionth fraction of all the knowledge available - so you've got to establish priorities.
That's not to demean the value of a broad education, especially an early education, because an understanding of the rough extents of human learning and experience are critical for context. Nor am I saying I don't enjoy gathering trivia and esoteric knowledge - I certainly do, but it's not inherently valuable, it just amuses me. What I can tell you a great deal about is potable water supply. You want to know where your water comes from, how it gets purified, how it travels from a reservoir to your tap? I'll talk your ear off about that. I have expertise. Because having that expertise is critical to doing my job. Knowledge of hypothetical zinc skin is not.

This was the conversation about flat earth. You have your expertise in water supply, i get that - so if i would tell to you an obvious lie about water supply systems, you could prove me wrong with arguments. But you are not prepared for a flat earth or chemical debate - that was the point, you or any other person on the street have no arguments to prove they are not made of zinc or that the earth is not flat, but they can disprove a lie in their narrow area of expertise they trained for. you trained for water shit, but i could convince a random person on the street that the water they drink is coming from the water reservoir above the cemetary so basically they drink the dead people's juice and thats why they are sick, they couldn't disprove it, since they are not you.

>the water reservoir BELOW the cemetary
fix

Brian Cox is a boring faggot and I doubt he's even that smart.

These type of shows all want to be awesome like Cosmos, but they suck balls

They don't need to, the "movement" is just a big bunch of grifters fleecing a bunch of retards.