Any byzantian kinos?

any byzantian kinos?

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Why is the Byzantine-era loved by soi?

Never even heard of Byzantium until recently. It wasn't a big deal.

the beards

It's like the Roman empire but hipster.

The Duelist

Braveheart

It's like the Roman Empire but it actually survived with skill against tough opponents instead of an overpowered starting location with weak surroundings enemies.

because instead of the western roman empire which was conquered by germanics (and thats a good thing) the eastern was conquered by brown people( and thats a bad thing), thats why soys obsess over it soo much

They fought the kebab

Rome was sacked multiple times and destroyed, Hannibal almost crushed the Roman Republic. They didn't have an easy time

After hannibal it was smooth sailing until Rome fell to apathy and got conquered by (((germanics)))

Who /Orthodox/ here?

the virgin knight vs the CHAD KATAPHRAKTOI

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Looking into it, seems amazingly comfy
>tfw Have shit beard
NGMI

Truly the most correct form of Christianity

almost-roman empire but christcuck so it's safe to enjoy it if you're a virgin nu/pol/tard

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Mirin the aesthetic desu
Very understated

I hope apophatic metaphysic doesn't fall on it's ass like Thomism does, so far so good though
[spoilers] pray for me [/spoilers]

They were the underdogs that everyone hated but managed to survive for a long time anyway

Who was the Antichrist of the Byzantines?

Justinian

I'm a big fan of Climacus and his ladder of divine ascent, so by the same token Gregory Palamas and the Hesychastic tradition.

Good luck on your journey. I spent my first few years in a mostly Greek-speaking Greek church before moving to an English-speaking Antiochian church. Unless you are dedicated to learning a new language and very patient, I recommend starting with an English-speaking church.

they were hated because they literally never paid their debts or held their promises just like niggers, Venice and the Latin Kingdoms did nothing wrong

Kampf um Rom

Enrico Dandolo aka the eternal V*netian

Venice did nothing wrong but the crusaders were definitely in the wrong and had no business doing what they did.

Thank you very much will check it out
Atm just doing the basics, self study, church fathers etc - don't want to waste their time unless I find it contradictory or whatever etc will keep that in mind though thanks

Isaac angelos who cucked the empire out of a restoration and caused it to get literally raped for the next 200 years until it fell

>he learned about ancient European history from Rome Total War
LMAO

"Now Bohemund was such as, to put it briefly, had never before been "seen in the land of the Romans, be he either of the barbarians or of the Greeks (for he was a marvel for the eyes to behold, and his reputation was terrifying). Let me describe the barbarian's appearance more particularly – he was so tall in stature that he overtopped the tallest by nearly one cubit, narrow in the waist and loins, with broad shoulders and a deep chest and powerful arms. And in the whole build of the body he was neither too slender nor overweighted with flesh, but perfectly proportioned and, one might say, built in conformity with the canon of Polycleitus... His skin all over his body was very white, and in his face the white was tempered with red. His hair was yellowish, but did not hang down to his waist like that of the other barbarians; for the man was not inordinately vain of his hair, but had it cut short to the ears. Whether his beard was reddish, or any other colour I cannot say, for the razor had passed over it very closely and left a surface smoother than chalk... His blue eyes indicated both a high spirit and dignity; and his nose and nostrils breathed in the air freely; his chest corresponded to his nostrils and by his nostrils... the breadth of his chest. For by his nostrils nature had given free passage for the high spirit which bubbled up from his heart. A certain charm hung about this man but was partly marred by a general air of the horrible... He was so made in mind and body that both courage and passion reared their crests within him and both inclined to war. His wit was manifold and crafty and able to find a way of escape in every emergency. In conversation he was well informed, and the answers he gave were quite irrefutable. This man who was of such a size and such a character was inferior to the Emperor alone in fortune and eloquence and in other gifts of nature."

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I'm Orthodox, Orthodox Catholicism that is

White people don't have history, so in this instance they historically appropriate roman and/or byzantine history as their own.

answer the call Yea Forums

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If you haven't figured out that your Pope is a Mason and the whole church is infiltrated yet you're too low IQ

Alexios > Justinian

> Pope is a Mason and the whole church is infiltrated
That you may be right, but the Church of Jesus founded on Peter prevails nonetheless

I used to admire Justinian until I read the biography of the true uberchad Belisarius

John Chrysostom and Belisarius are unmatched when it comes to chadness and redpilledness.

>That you may be right, but the Church of Jesus founded on Peter prevails nonetheless
I Inironically wish you luck, I couldn't stand hearing weekly news of all the shit being pushed by the Church elite especially w/ regards to immigration etc

this. fuck justinian

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There is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. And that church is not based in R*me.

Andronikos started it.

>any byzantian kinos?

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Justinian was an overconfident cuck the only chads were Belisarius and Constantine XI who was surprisingly effective and commited to prolong a stagnant empire's imminent death as well as being incredibly competent in the Siege of Constantinople despite having no military education like his predecessors

How did they still not figure out a non retarded succession system after the wre fell?

B O L G A R O K T O N O S

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Normans were truly the chaddest of chads.

>Trusts a cowardly Frenchman running from battle
>Abandons Crusaders
>Gets pissy when they tell him to fuck off later

kind of a bitch too

To the east of the Roman empire lied Sassanid Persia, a geopolitical behemoth that had for centuries functioned as its main adversary, with intermittent bloody conflicts being the staple of eastern Roman provinces throughout. Their borders were very much fluid, and each new conflict brought adjustments to the territories closest to them. The Caucasus lied between the two superpowers, a collection of buffer states that maintained their autonomy by juggling diplomatic allegiances between them, while the deserts to the south were home to scattered, disunited Bedouin tribes, some of which likewise allied themselves to either adversary.

War was indeed a fact of daily life in the near east as the two superpowers engaged in an unceasing, centuries-long struggle for dominance.
Nearly half a century before Maurice’s ascension, Justinian had sought to eliminate Persia’s monopoly on the influx of products from the far east by aiding the Christian Ethiopian kingdom of Axum in its campaign against the Jewish kingdom of Yemen, a Persian protectorate. The endeavor was successful, and the trade routes of the red sea hence came under the control of a Byzantine ally, opening up Byzantine trade to the Indies for the first time in centuries. Along with the multitudes of products that arrived in Egypt’s red sea ports, a terrible pestilence believed to be bubonic plague soon reared its head. The pestilence spread throughout Rome’s major urban centers and eliminated up to a quarter of the total population of the eastern Mediterranean. Constantinople lost 40% of its 400.000 strong population, and the overall mortality reduced the empire’s tax base to such an extent that Justinian could no longer afford to pay his army’s salaries and carry on with his campaigns, a deficit that would remain in the decades to come.

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Maurice, having inherited the empire from Justinian’s successors after emerging victorious in war against the Persians, proved a competent administrator, and his reign brought a semblance of stability to Byzantium. His neglect of his troops’ salaries as he sent them to winter north of the Danube prompted open revolt on their part, and their chosen leader, a centurion named Phocas, found himself made emperor.
Phocas’ usurpation in 602 prompted the Sassanids, sensing Rome’s vulnerability, to launch an open invasion against its near eastern provinces. Phocas, unable to deal with the pressure of foreign incursion, lost the trust of his subordinates, and rebellious military officials soon removed him from power and had him slain in 610. His successor, a seasoned general named Heraclius, immediately set his gaze upon the eastern front. The Persian advance was relentless: Themselves a heathen peoples who clung to their ancestral Zoroastrian faith, they gave no quarter to the Christian lands that fell under their occupation. As written in the “miracle of St Demetrios”: “[T]he devil raised the whirlwind of hatred in all the East, Cilicia, Asia, Palestine and all the lands from there to Constantinople: the factions, no longer content simply to spill blood in public places, attacked homes, slaughtered women, children, the aged, and the young who were sick; those whose youth and frailty impeded their escape from the massacre, [saw] their friends, acquaintances, and parents pillaged, and after all that, even set on fire so that the most wretched inhabitant was not able to escape.”

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The severity of the situation was undeniable. Syria and Palestine were the first to fall, and soon followed Egypt and Anatolia. Jerusalem was put to the torch and the true cross was claimed as a spoil of victory while Khosrow II, the Persian emperor, planned to besiege Constantinople herself.
In the meantime, Heraclius rallied what meager forces he had in a last, desperate effort to defend what remained of the empire and repel the invasion, and personally embarked upon a campaign into Persian territory as the head of a Roman counter-offensive.

The year is 626, and Persian troops, having enlisted the help of Slavs and Avars –Foreign, uncivilized, tribal peoples who had invaded and occupied most of the Roman empire’s Balkan territories north of Salonica during the reign of Phocas- put Constantinople under siege. Through heroic efforts on the part of the city’s defenders, the siege fails, and Khorsow leaves defeated.
Heraclius’ tremendous military successes against Persian armies in the east (Even threatening Ctesiphon, the Persian capital), coupled with Khorsow’s failure caused many in the Sassanid empire to lose faith in their emperor’s competence, leading to his deposition and execution in a coup led by his son soon after his return.
Khorsow’s son and successor, Kavad II, immediately sues for peace, agreeing to withdraw from all occupied Roman territories and return the true cross. Nothing is gained, Persia soon devolves into civil war and both sides lie in ruins, their coffers empty and their military capacity exhausted. Many of his contemporaries would compare Heraclius’ efforts against the Persians to those of Alexander, but his victory would be short lived.

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Religion of Peace time

By 629, the Islamic Prophet Muhammad has unified the scattered tribes of the Arabian peninsula, until then a minor nuisance to the great empires of the north, and too disunited to pose a serious threat to either, under the banner of Islam. In the following decades, the newly proclaimed Rashidun caliphate (632), ruled by Mohammed’s successors, would invade and conquer the Roman middle east and completely annex the Persian state, leaving Rome barely clinging to its European and Anatolian holdings. Exhausted by Justinian's plague and Heraclius' Persian War, the Roman state had been utterly powerless to stop the relentless Islamic advance, and the course of human history had consequently changed decisively forever.

In the centuries that followed, Roman society had to drastically reform itself to weather the yearly Arab assaults that threatened its remaining territories. The institutional and bureaucratic complexity that characterized early Byzantine administration was abandoned in accordance to the empire’s defensive needs. The former administrative divisions of the empire were replaced with military entities, scholarly, academic and artistic pursuits were all but abandoned due to lack of funding after the loss of the empire’s richest provinces, classical cities lost their civic character and transformed into walled forts of limited size to protect their denizens against yearly raids, and the dark ages finally descended upon the east.

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Yeah it kinda was dipshit

ALEXIOS

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Constantinople is a pretty defensible place for a capital

Constantinople is at the tail end of the steppenigger highway whereas Rome is in the centre of a comfy peninsula surrounded by mountains and the sea.

The goths sacked Rome because they were promised an alliance with Rome, food to defend their borders, but then they were sold into slavery, so they got angry attacked eastern rome and then were persuaded to march on Rome since power was being more centralized in the East now, they didn’t really have a plan to conquer it so they sacked it. But all these barbarian tribes envied Rome, even the goths. And barabarians were readily christianized by Rome, and then by charlemagne.

Rome was a great position for local commerce and hard to penetrate from sea. Constantinople was a great place for commerce too and ultra defensible also. They’re both good spots

Is the Byzantine empire a meme on /his/ or something?

I've never heard someone talk about it since high school history class. I think the history of the empire is cool but you guys seem autistic about it

do u really expect anyone to take anything u say serious when half ur post is faggoty reddit buzzwords "christcuck nupoltard" just say that outloud you autist

So far this is the best doomer meme ive seen

its just buthurt gayreeks larping about the last time in history that they had any agency

reminder that its istanbul now and ottoman is 3rd rome

Ok Turkroach. We owe real civilization to Greeks. They can prattle on about their achievements as much as they want.

yeah? buttfucking too

Pretty sure there was buttfucking in every Meso/sandnigger civilization. Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians, Arabians, Turks, fuck off turkroach

Aren't the Turks the kings of homo? Sucking hairy cock in their bathhouses

fuck you based mohamed is a cunnysieur

unlike roman emperors lmao look up sporus, elagablus and antinuos

Turks were very into sodomy.

>first to decriminalize homosexuality in the entire world
>Mehmed II notorious homo bumfucker
>medieval Ottoman art depicts a lot of buggery
>Turkish oil wrestling is EXTREMELY homoerotic

Perhaps the gayest of all societies.

Yeah that’s the only based shit about Muhammad’s legacy, besides making smelly ass sandniggers wash their feet and pits

name has both a y and a z in it so it sounds cool

not enough sass

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why'd he marry a roastie

>Constantinople
its Istanbul now sweaty

for me it's constantine v aka constantine the shit

Look at what he inherited though. He was playing on very hard setting. He set the empire up for recovery, his only flaw was his son dying young so that his grandson overextended.

Eastern Orthodoxy is a foreign thing to many Americans though

Turks have one claim to fame to civilization: getting away with genocide.

sick architecture and trample on their unique unit

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It's like the roman empire but good and they had nice architecture, religious aesthetics and were in many ways more interesting than the average middle ages european shithole kingdom or middle eastern caliphate

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>I'm the Caesar now

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>you're awful Constantine XI Palaiologos...

>Why is the Byzantine-era loved by soi?
Christian, but exotic. Kinda like how they like Gnostics