The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance

She was willing to sell her fellow gelflings to the butcherhouse, she deserved a rude wakeup call.

I watched the show first, the movie spoils some stuff. I think I made the right call.

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She didn't believe that the Skesis were actually draining Gelflings tho, it was only after she had a rude awakening that she said that she would be willing to sacrifice a few to save many.

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I heard there was already a download for the season. Anyone got the link for it?

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Favorite show of the year, Yea Forums or otherwise.

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Just watched the last episode... I want Rian to protect Deets smile

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I wonder how everybody's gonna die

Stole the show in my opinion.

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Gelfling Essence Not Even Once

Why didn't Frank Oz return?

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In a mass genocide?

Garthim dragging them to be drained. Emperor figuring out how to use Deet to spread the darkening, with the uintended consequence of his body getting severely damaged in the process. That would be my guess.

Depends on how they want to organize the rest of the series. Obviously we know it doesn't end well, but the question is whether they go straight into "other shoe drops" territory in the second season or whether they want to give the gelflings a few more victories first.

Voiceover wise, probably the combination of the all-celeb cast and being too old for this shit.
Puppetry wise, probably being too old for this shit.

By Garthim

He returned for Yoda though

read The Power of the Dark Crystal comic

Fuck Rian. Hup all the way.

Disney money is pretty hard to turn down

How does the scientist make more garthim if he only had access to one member of the slave species?

If There was an "OC comunity" making content and trending stuff.
Would that be considered a success?

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youtu.be/xWF5Q9L38lw
Anyone seen this?

WHERE IS HE

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She didn't get drained while she begged for her life so no.

Bitch tried to do the same to countless of her own subjects, she deserved nothing less than a taste of her own medicine.

I want to see him come in all guns blazing, since the two chaddest skeksis are now dead.

Why do you think there aren't any Arathim by the time of the movie?

I enjoyed skekGra

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They mean Gruenaks, they're thought dead and he only had one.

Guys, please don't wake up my wife. She's trying to get some rest.

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I guess Chamberlain knew where to get more, or alternatively they don't need that race specifically.

>a rapespider comes across a sleeping deet
"Hey, don't eat me, let's be friends instead!"
>the rapespider agrees
Okay then.

I hope Hup and Rian team up to save Deets soul

How am I meant to parse this?

Not evil
But extremely dangerous

Well the bottom two are the characters English voice actors so I’m guessing the center 2 are the Japanese voice actors

I wish someone would post Japanese-language clips of the skeksis somewhere. Listening to them in foreign languages is a fucking trip.

the movie made it seem like the two races were separated cause the crystal broke, the show makes it seem like that never happened. I don't understand this big of a plot hole

Shit, I need to rewatch it in Japanese audio for maximum Bunrakino.

No, they clarify it. It was because of the crystal shard, but Aughra had friendly relationships with both before going on her trip.

Unironically thought it's a masterpiece
My favorite was Seladon, I love characters like that

Can you get Jap audio without Japanese Netflix?

I thought he was a fun character BUT*, he also doesn't really make sense if you account for the way Mystics and Skeksis work. They were established before as being the good and evil halves of their original unified self, but Gra completely shatters that by having somehow developed an entirely new personality. No other pair ever deviates from the behaviors which they embody and it was never once previously implied that they were even capable of growing beyond the traits they inherited during their split. I don't hate it or anything, but it does kind of make me question why none of the others have deviated at all from their behavior in thousands of years.
The movie makes the Urskeks out to be more arrogant and naive while the show implies that they were more pragmatic and trying to use it for something or study it for some other reason, but yeah in the show they say that experimentation with the crystal's innate power split them apart while in the original they were just as much a part of Thra as every other living thing and knocking a chunk out of the crystal is specifically what separated them.

Looks like not, sadly.

The movie also showed a Skeksis cracking the crystal.

The Creation Myths comic has it so that the urSkeks attempt at returning home ended up being derailed by one member's frustrations and anger causing them to be rejected, which spread to the others and caused the split. In the chaos and confusion of the split, a newborn Skeksis broke the crystal and two sets ended up dying before the other Skeksis figured out that they couldn't just kill the Mystics.

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>the movie made it seem like the two races were separated cause the crystal broke,
They did.
>the show makes it seem like that never happened.
What? Heretic's play made it clear that's what happened, they even had a little Urskek puppet. Heretic worked hard on that puppet, user.

I see why you're confused though, so here's something that might clear things up, Aughra knew them before and AFTER the split, she did lose herself in the cosmos but she was around as recently as about 100 or so years prior to the start of the beginning of the series, depending on how long a Podling lives. She knew about them before they tried to use the Great Conjuncture to purge their dark corruption, remember these glowing fuckers are FALLEN Urskeks, they were exiled from their homeworld, and she knew the Skeksis after they did purge one half and she was friends with them before they went full tyrants. If that seems hard to believe she would fall for that, remember they used to look like this.

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>the movie made it seem like the two races were separated cause the crystal broke
Actually this is wrong, they separated because the Great Conjuncture focused its light on them through the crystal and split them, you even see a Skeksis is the one who cracked the crystal in the original, not the split. 1, that was Chamberlain, and 2, he did it because if the crystal isn't whole than the next Great Conjuncture, he won't be fused back together with the Uru. That's why in the movie they had to fix the crystal before time ran out, if they'd fixed it afterwards it just would have a fixed crystal and the Skeksis would remain split.

I'd like to watch both this show and the 1982 film, but I find the puppet design involved genuinely creepy in an off-putting way (and I don't think Henson intended it to be creepy). I have read mostly positive criticism of the film, praising its setting and worldbuilding and it seems that the show follows that line. Is there any way to overcome this? There aren't that many dark fantasy-themed movies/shows out there and I feel like missing great stuff with this.

>Would that be considered a success?
good taste

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>hey were established before as being the good and evil halves of their original unified self, but Gra completely shatters that by having somehow developed an entirely new personality.
I think it was implying that the Skeksis weren't for sure going to be evil, which makes sense considering Augrha was friends with them, and more that they allowed themselves to be lost to their worst desires and that's what eventually transformed them from the beings Augrha called beautiful into gluttonous, bulging monsters that only care for themselves as they lose themselves to sickness and disgusting revelry.

Heretic being the conqueror implies that all of the Skeksis could have defeated their darker urges and actually been decent rulers, and probably were decent once upon a time. He adds in the idea any of them could have broken out of their base desires, but none were actually willing to. Why would they? What's in it for them? They don't want to end up like the Heretic, crawing about in the sand, they want to live it up! Bubblebaths, the best food, servants to your every whim and the rejuvenation of the Crystal.

>but it does kind of make me question why none of the others have deviated at all from their behavior in thousands of years.
Well, they have, just in the worst way.

You're right and I'm a fucking retard, I didn't realize there was actually extra material outside of what's explicitly shown in the movie.

I'm just going off the movie and series, I haven't read the other materials yet though I absolutely now plan to do that.

I’m pretty sure Henson deliberately made them creepy.

whelp Tangled isn't the darkest kid show on anymore

Yes he did. He wanted to avoid making them too cute

You get used to them. Maybe not so much in the movie because their movementes are very doll-like, but in the TV series the puppetry is very advanced and it's almost like looking at animation.

The whole point of the heretic and his counterpart was that they were trying to be closer together, almost becoming Ur'Skek again. Also, a mystic would never have forged the dual glaive.

IIRC, some cgi has been done on the Gelfling mouths to make them more expressive.

>Skeks at the castle get fat and lazy, have to take a carriage everywhere
>Hunter can run and leap through fucking trees and shit and go Grievous mode with swords
what an absolute Chad, how can other Skeks compete.

They showed this weird "remote control" thing in the making of documentary. It made their ears and even face muscles move.

I read an interview for the show somewhere, that remote is literally a modified Wii nunchuck.

>but Gra completely shatters that by having somehow developed an entirely new personality.
He conquered himself.

>I'd like to watch both this show and the 1982 film, but I find the puppet design involved genuinely creepy in an off-putting way
This movie was made with the intention of reminding children there are scary things out there and that they need to be brave enough to face them

What clans would Jen and Kira hail from?

Stonewood and Vapra, obviously

I think Jen would be Stone-In-Wood, going by the hair and I think at one point he has blue stuff around his eyes like them.

Kira is pale as fuck. She's a Grottan.

A yo fuck seladon

Kylon will.

She gets what's coming to her.

No

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Tangled is dark?

I like that in his very first scene you could tell how fucking active the hunter is compared to the other skeksis. He was pacing circles around Chamberlain constantly, just while talking to him.

It's nowhere remotely as dark as this series, but it deals with some pretty heavy themes for a kid's show.

>how can other Skeks compete.
Nobody could compete except Archer, that was the point.

Not to this level, but it does deal with grief, ptsd, unrequited homo love, pogroms, and flesh melting cosmic death magic

I would say Kira is probably the descendant of Deet and Rian

And Jen is a descendent of Brea and that dark haired gelfling that kept looking at her

Does anybody have a MEGA for this show? I keep hearing about one but I've never seen it posted in a thread or in an archive.

Lore is pretty cool

This is the best series I have seen that was made within the last decade. How can anything else compete?

He's a real puppet too

>He didn't wake up in time to have a fight with Hunter

Tell me that wouldn't have been the hypest shit.

TRIAL BY STONE.

Fucking watch it. It deserves all the legitimate viewership it can get to earn a new season.

Remarkable, he looked even GAYER back then

Of course I'm going to watch it. I'm just not going to pay to watch it.

What's up with all the OC Donut Steel autism? Can't you lot just make funny content?

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Not sure how to find the MEGA, but there's a few scenes of it on Youtube if you're interested.

I like to think if the Emperor hadn’t been ruining his body more than the usual Skeksis degeneration by shooting up with Darkening he could have been a real force to reckon with
Consider that even with all the extra damage he was doing to himself he could still move fine and push about the others

>I find the puppet design involved genuinely creepy in an off-putting way (and I don't think Henson intended it to be creepy)
It's fully intentional. Vague unease and fear makes things memorable.

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Well it wasn't pure damage, it was give and take. The Darkening messed up his body, but in exchange it granted him a lot of power like he said. He was just as decadent and gluttonous as the others were, and even with Essence making him stronger and the Darkening giving him powers, he couldn't compete with /k/bird.

The real question is, would the Darkening have made Hunter even more powerful than he was already, or would the damage it does to his body outweigh the magical powerup it gives him?

Just PUT it in a LOCKER and watch it whenever you want.

It feels kind if weird to me how sympathetic aughra is in this. She knows how bad she has messed up and that she regrets losing her friends among the mystics and even skeksis.

Oh yeah, right. I think when I looked before, I was being RUsed or TRACKed. I walways forget that I can just PUT things into LOCKERs.

It's been years but was I the only one who didn't get it that Aughra was supposed to be some goddess guardian and not your average witch supporting character in the movie?

SkekMal was pure RULES OF NATURE the Darkening was a byproduct of the skeks fucking with the Crystal
So I think he’d be disgusted with it as everything else, and it would do more harm than good. Maybe a power boost at first but it would be in such major conflict with his normal mojo that it might conceivably hurt him MORE than the others

Yeah, I really can’t stand it when irredeemable characters are so easily forgiven.

I sincerely hope you're joking

>can’t say Aughra didn’t try
It was really interesting and nice how Aughra saw and accepted that things, even prophecy, could turn out any number of ways and she had no more control than anyone else and just had to nudge things and accept when people decided to not follow her advice
She was scornful of the Skeksis but almost more in a regretful way that she knows how far they fell and wishes she had been around to prevent it. The Threader she helped and held no ill will towards, and her genuine sympathy for Seladon when she was getting SHREKT by the boys

Often stories make prophecies some untouchable force with one inevitable result. It’s nice to have prophecies, and the one who reads them, be so flexible and fallible for once

Funny thing is I have netflix, it just runs like shit on my laptop for some reason. Overheats like crazy, and it's the only streaming service that causes that. So I just alternate between locker putting and using Netflix on my tablet. I guess for viewership reasons I should watch it all on the tablet.

I think there might be a little bit of crossbreed game involved. Stone in the Wood gelflings have that blue coloration around their ears and foreheads.

Eh, Seladon was definitely a dick and in the wrong but she truly believed the Skeksis were fair and just. The thought of them ever actually draining Gelfling was preposterous. Her ignorance gives her a bit of leeway for that kinda thing.

Do you have Netflix?

Then fuck off back to Pirate Bay you cheap cunt

I like how everyone was sure the Chamberlain would be fucked up by best bird but he managed to explain himself in the Hunter's terms.

>You hunt a chair?

>I hunt POWER.

Chamberlain was surprisingly badass in this series. In the movie, I never pictured him as the Machiavellian type, but wow!

He is one cold sonovabitch!

Sure
BUT

That part afterwards when she's SEEN what colossal dickbags the skeks are and she STILL blames Brea, she needed to be bitchslapped back to Thra because she was on a whole different PLANET of self delusion

>*casually pulls off fingernail and squirts goo into food*

Honestly, the only ending for Seledon that would have left me satisfied is if she were to go off into self imposed exile and lives out the rest of her life as a lowly hermit.

For those who crave the adoration and acknowledgment of others, solitude is the worse kind of torture.

He is ridiculously good at what he does

>appeals to the Hunter's vanity and thirst for challenge to get him on the hunt
>Is able to talk him down from icing Rian right then and there by explaining that he is on his own hunt, speaking in terms he could appreciate

>Has the gruenaks compromise skekvar's essence to weaken him, fuckin steals it for himself since scientist cut him off
>Didn't even DRINK the essence despite it being orgasm in liquid form, but actually holds onto it because he knew skekvar would get his dumb ass hurt, allowing himself to swoop in and be the general's heroic friend

Things constantly go wrong but he almost always finds a way to immediately turn it towards his favor again

cgi BULLSHIT

Oh, it's you again

Those who take puppets seriously deserve to be shot, they are unworthy of being called human.

I HATE YOUR WHIMPER

Guinea fowl, penguin, griffon vulture, indian vulture, pheasant, Rupell's vulture, eagle, Egyptian vulture, condor

Not evil per se, just hedonistic. Things only went to shit when they got old.

More food! MORE FOOD!

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You forgot:
>Makes the standard psychopath argument as to why Skeksis are not evil and them eating gelflings is only natural.

It's always fucking boomers. Fucking boomies succ the essence out of my wallet into their fucking health care and pensions AHHHHHHHHH.

Chamberlain was the only one, including the Emperor, who wasn't afraid to actually call the Hunter and wasn't afraid when the guy arrived. It seems like Chamberlain was the closest one to him, both understanding the crave for challenges and how the Hunter just understood how he was hunting in his own way. Which is odd, Chamberlain was the only one who didn't freak out when Hunter was 'killed', everyone else was straight up inconsolable, including the Emperor. Admittedly it seemed more to do with their own mortality but Chamberlain was the only one who kept his head while they were freaking out.

Like most manipulators, Chamberlain usually freaks the fuck out when he's lost control of a situation. Hunter's first death was beyond his control, but the proper action necessary to respond to it wasn't. So he was probably more focused on what comes next.

Thing is I think he actually believed it and could realistically justify it. He saw Gelflings as cattle or pets because he'd lived so long that their lives seemed inconsequential to him in the grand scheme of things, and he's right that as twisted and horrifying as it is, Skeksis are eating to survive since without the Essence they'll die. He's absolutely a monster but he's that weird kind of monster where he can convince himself as well as he can convince others, and everyone else just plain did not give a fuck. They didn't care what the Gelflings were in relation to them outside of Essence or servants. He was the only one who rationalized their lot in life.

Hunter seemed to appreciate a Skeksis who seemed to put thought into things.

Based ornithologist user

>it's... purple!

>but he's that weird kind of monster where he can convince himself
Thats what monsters tend to do, do nasty shit while convincing their own brains that its fine for whatever reason.

>THAT MOST ANCIENT AND SACRED OF ARTS...
>Puppetry!
Lost it

Where did you find this kino poster, OP?

Usually not with detailed logic though, the Emperor for example just plain didn't give a fuck about Gelflings in any capacity outside of how they could extend his lifespan. Chamberlain is the worst kind of monster because he uses huge stretches to explain why all of this is just natural even when the very spirit of the world itself is telling him its not fucking natural.

Was this an international release? Japan is usually big into puppetry and animatronic shows. Was it well received there?

Original Dark Crystal was the biggest box office hit in Japan in 1983.

best skeksis

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I'm planning on watching this, but has it enough Gelfling humiliation and suffering?

Every single solitary episode, Gelflings die. Every. Episode.

Yes

Thanks dudes. It goes right into my queue.

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Mega suffering.

I mean the emperor was freaking out plenty, but more in a we can’t show that we can die kind of way

Why do you enjoy Gelfling suffering so much?

He's probably Korean

Because Gelfling suffering is the only premise of this mess of a franchise.

He's probably Skeksis.

Jen and kira were boring

delet this.

I hope they wrote out how to end this in two seasons.

If the Japs get us a complete story for this series, I will take back everything bad I have ever said about anime.

>Gelfling humiliation
no

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the ruling family of Ha'rar fill the suffering quota by themselves but there's STILL more from pretty much every side

>Promo images come out of him with a sword
>have giggle that they gave the librarian skeksis a sword
>he draws first blood in the finale battle
He's pretty based isn't he

should I watch the original movie? If yes, after or before the series?

Apparently not just in '83, but held the record of biggest foreign box office in Japan until Titanic came out 14 years later.

1. Yes. It's awesome.
2. Yes. That's not only how everything is meant to be viewed but the series is full of callbacks. Hell, every episode name is a movie quote.

>has it Gelfling humiliation
no

>That bookish fucker got the first kill

A Chad among nerdish Chads.

Honestly they could have drained her and I would think it's her own fault.

This is going to become a new meme isn't it?

If so good. That scene was a thing of beauty.

>When Seladon fucking SLAMS Fara
I got hard, won't lie. Porn when

>watch it
absolutely

>when
It's your call, I think a lot of the series is most appreciated with how it illuminates and expands on the world shown in the movie. On the other hand it's valid to experience it in chronological order
My preference would probably be movie, then series, but either works I think

>the spiders start talking[/spoilers]

What did Deet's future vision (the second one) mean?

well, if you discount SkekVar wrecking All-Maudra or SkekMal tossing a bitch off a cliff

It is foolish to hope they soft reboot the movie and the gelfling holocoast is avoided?

Not sure, but I think the gelfling that was on the Crystal is supposed to be Jen

>This is going to become a new meme isn't it?
...No

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Highly unlikely.

I'd have to rewatch and study closer but probably something akin to Aughra's prophecy and she sees some potential bad shit
If I'm not mistaken doesn't part of the vision show her sitting on the Skeksis throne? It might not be literal though, perhaps representing how the Darkening is taking more and more precedence in SkekSo's decisions?

>das it mane

This and the moment they free she has the breakthrough. I suppose that makes sense though. To afraid to let go of her hate until she's free of cage.

Yes Even though I kinda want that solely because I'll literally be heartbroken seeing Deet die D:

>When you bust but she keep succin your essence.

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>he also doesn't really make sense if you account for the way Mystics and Skeksis work.
I took it to mean that they were the outsiders. One was the heritic the other the wanderer. Neither could fit with their group so they found each other.

that shit really threw me for a loop, the way they discussed them at points did make it sound like they were intelligent and somewhat organized but I wasn't expecting full on fucking Hivemind assimilation

It might be Rian putting the shard back in the crystal, thinking that it will get rid of the Skeksis.
Only to find out that's not how it works and he never could have succeeded before the Great Convergence.

Ya this. The cleansing attempt fails and it causes the split. The skeksis freaked out and one cracked the crystal while one killed two mystics right off. Killing himself and one other in the process. Which is kind of weird. If the crack happened right after the solar convergence why does it need to be repaired in the next. Also what is the crystal? I thought it was implied that Agatha or whatever mediated between the air earth and sea early on to make them stable and that the crystal was a result. So the crystal is a part of the planet just representing its organization.

I suspect that it's meant to be a distant glimpse of Jen succeeding. If the Crystal shard was put back it would also have to be broken again. I put my bet on them getting their shit smashed by the Garthim too hard to ever get close enough to the Crystal to try

Not familiar with the extra lore but that's kinda the impression I get, that the Crystal is something of a manifestation of Thra like Aughra, but more of a physical locus of the world's energy

So, is it possible to drain a Gelfling's essence when they're dead? If not, then it's dumb of the Skeksis to commit genocide of the Gelflings rather than forcibly capturing them all.

>be repaired in the next.
Repaired BY the next, the Convergence was over when they realized what had happened. If the crystal isn't fixed by the next convergence then it won't rejoin them.

>Also what is the crystal?
Crystal of Truth, its the focal point of Thra's life essence. Its a part of the planet like a heart is a part of the body.

You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. they were ready to kill a few to hold them in respect.

The commonly accepted metaphysics of the world indicates their essence returns to the earth or whatever when they die so no, it can't be extracted once already dead
Chamberlain tried pointing that out but the fucks are too short sighted and addicted to the stuff. And now Chamberlain himself is too goddamn sick of the gelfling to stop the others from wiping them out

Dead gelflings are returned to thra

Hamill did amazing. Why are there listed two voice actor per character?

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But drained ones never reenrich Thra or reincarnate
Voice Actor and Puppeteer. Thw voice is only half of the performance

Is it two VAs or the VA and the puppeteer by chance?
Or it could be the VA for a different language

Duh that makes sense. Thanks guys that didn't occur to me

IT's telling a lot about the performance that we actually forgot that there is pupetters required to make them act.

Deet's vision is not Jen.
The scene is different.

Oh? Elaborate

Honestly the skeksis performance is so good that sometimes you forget they're actually goddamn puppets.

Jen screams and is blown off the Crystal when he pushes it in. Plus he's wearing bright clothes.

The person in the figure stays on it, and is wearing dark brown clothes. I think he's Rian. And Deet is in the throne room too. So shit is going down.

I seem to recall the crystal shard being purple in the original movie so it might signal Deet getting un-norted during the final battle of the rebellion.

I'll toss out my fanfic
>Rian is desperate to heal Deet of the darkening as it grows more and more powerful and threatens to kill her like the sanctuary tree
>thinks fixing the crystal will allow them to purge the darkness from her
How does it all go wrong from there

Hm, was it?
youtube.com/watch?v=hxNl6v6_jeU

My guess is that the Skeksis don't know about the prophecy. and rian attempting this is how they find out.

Ah I think I know where you got confused
When Jen is looking for the real shard in the Orrey he plays his flute and the shard GLOWS purple for a moment

NOOOOOO I DON'T WANT DEET TO DIE
SHE DESERVES HAPPINESS IN A COMFY GROTTAN HOME WITH RIAN AND HER KIDS

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Yeesh. No wonder the Emperor looked so rotten by the film.

The darkening is basically Phazon, right?

Who is skekli?

Seems like the only comeuppance he ever gets is after failing trial of stone in the movie, and still spins it to his advantage. Im surprised Scientist didnt get him back at least once.
That's nothing compared to the Peeper Beetle and all the goddamn snot and pus from the Collector.

SkekLi is The Satirist. Turned up in Song of the Dark Crystal.

A little yes and a little no
In terms of origins it's a resulting force caused by the misuse of the Crystal, rather than a completely alien infection
In terms of effect yeah it's fairly close. Let's just hope a bit of Darkness doesn't snatch up a bit of Deet and create Dark Deet

Yeah, the show has lots of gore that's very disturbing even if you know its puppets.

>Japan is usually big into puppetry and animatronic shows.
Never knew that.

You reckon there's any Japanese art for the series on the web?

Check pixiv

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>Im surprised Scientist didnt get him back at least once.
He kinda did by denying Chamberlain any Essence, but Chamberlain was two steps ahead.

Interesting. Also wasn't one of the Final Fantasy crew inspired by the Dark Crystal for making certain monsters or something?

>80's manga style
I love that so much.

GO MY GARTHIM

Crystal chronicles is pretty dark crystal-esque. The crab boss looks like a garthim, too.

“By Ka”

Well? What is he referring to?

Grotta have their tree so do you think this ‘ka’ is their equivalent and if so what is it?

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HELLO

>au where we got a Dark Crystal anime with this exact plot
I don't know whether I'd be mad or not

Watch it Gelfling

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It will get better /skekchad/ bros?

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Well the show was apparently pitched as an animated series first before Netflix decided "Why not do it with puppets?"

Similarly, the cancelled Genndy Tartakovsky sequel movie was apparently going to come with a show by Genndy too.

I'd be mad because no fucking way could the Skeksis look the same as they did in the movie/show, do you see how much kibble is on those fuckers? It would either take an entire lifetime to make one episode or they'd be a lot more bland.

...I legit thought he was dead

skekUng will kick Chamberlain's shit in

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Kind of funny how incompetent the garthim were in the movie when here they're being built up as the ultimate soldier

even if it was just for a small bit, it was pretty cool seeing Barnaby Dixon and his weird little handpuppet in the show

Lmao that's pretty much what happens I bet

Absolutely

The trailer looks atrocious, sell me on it.

Puppet vultures killing puppet elves

what else is going on?

Okay well, that helps but I'm not convinced it'll be good.

>image
Too kek

Watching something because there's nothing else to watch isn't a good reason, I could just jerk off and might have more fun.

yeah but then you tried that now what'?

Chamberlain is going to be pissed. It's going to be hilarious.

labyrinth > dark crystal

Anyone else notice during the scene where the scientist kills the two creatures with their mouths sewn shut that at one point you can see the puppeteer? If you pause it at the right time you can see his head behind a basket.

The main cast seems likely to be directly involved in the births of Kira and Jen, so I think they’ll survive until the end. Most likely Rian is Jen’s father, Jen has a bit of the Stonewood look. There may be a failed attempt to heal the crystal, and that combined with the prophecy will make the Skeksis even more sure they need to destroy all the Gelfling. Once the Garthim are mobilized, things are going to start going a lot worse for pretty much all the Gelfling clans.

That's a valid reason.

It's a well written fantasy series with compelling worldbuilding, an impressive mix of practical and cgi effects, stellar voice acting, great music, and masterful work in puppeteering.

Alright, that DOES sound good, but what I wanna know is, WHY are the Skeksis back after they reunited with their other halves and became all harmonious and shit? You've convinced me for the most part, but the story has to be good too.

Honestly considering there seem to be a lot more of the fuckers in the comics after the main movie ends I'm guessing there are a lot more survivors than we think and they just went into hiding or some such.

Easier to survive if your enemy thinks you're dead and all that.

Well you can just take your head off

This is a prequel, dude, about when the gelfling get their shit kicked in by the Skeksis.

You've got it backwards, this series is about the events leading up to the movie, the series starts 50 years before the events of the original, enough time for some interesting shit to be fleshed out.

Series is a prequel not a sequel. This is /before/ they fix their shit. You're getting prime Skeksis evil, unfiltered, for 10 hours.

This show basically a movie so why wasn't it a movie?

This is a prequel to the original movie. It's not a sequel.

>prime Skeksis evil, unfiltered, for 10 hours.
And it's delicious. It's what everyone comes for. That and the Garthim and we're getting those next time.

How the fuck did you watch the trailer and not realize it's a prequel, nigga?

Jim Henson's Game of Thrones

Y'know what, that sounds pretty good. I'll watch it.
I only saw the YouTube ad versions.

The garthim are the baked potato to the Skeksis prime rib.

The Hunter was such a great character to watch. It's a shame that he had to get killed off

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its more game of thrones than the final three seasons

Take a screenshot

Eyepatch fizzgig is definitely an ancestor of Kira's fizzgig

where do you watch the making of documentary?

I think it popped up as the next vid after episode 10

Also on netflix. I never even knew it was there, but it started playing as soon as I finished the main series.

Episode 10 at 28:16

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So how Deep in the earth do the Grottan clan live?

Shouldn't they have interacted with the Firelings somewhat? Or are they too close to the surface for that?

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because it's 10 hours and not technically finished

Grottan live in caves, the fire fucks are at the core of the planet. Not near deep enough to interact.
Hell they probably don't even know each other exists.

>tfw the scene where SkekTek beats his second Grunak to death, splattering its blood everywhere and even onto SkekTek's pet bird, scared out of its wits.

>Kaz... I'm already a fizzgig.

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I expected the Dark Crystal to be brutal, but damn, not /that/ brutal.

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Out of all the scenes in this show, that's the one that made me bewildered the most as to how the FUCK they got away with it. I mean I'm not complaining, but that's gotta be fucking terrifying for a kid.

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Will this come out on DVD?

>TRY GETTING A RESERVATION FOR FREEDOM OUTSIDE THE CASTLE NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID GRUNAK! AHHHH, YOU FUCKING, GRUNAAAAK!

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Bigger Netflix shows can get a home release, but it's usually not guaranteed. The chance for one here is a bit higher since you could probably push it as a collector's item to diehards.

Benedict Wong did a great job voicing The General but I have to admit it reminded me too much of The Garthim Master.

Kinda afraid to finish this series because it's too good. Hope there's a Season 2.

There should be.

>Hamill bringing up Return To Oz as an amazing movie that was underrated back then
totally based

I fucking hope so. I need to see how Deet dies.

How do I shill this to my friends who don't usually watch puppet shows, bros? I want this show to succeed.

I'm trying to figure out the same thing. It was easy for me since I already saw the original film and loved it, but my friends haven't and I don't know if they'd hate the puppets or not.

She'll always be in our hearts and cannot die so long as the memory remains

Honestly this is one of those shows where you have to show not tell.

You might be able to sell it with the Jim Henson brand. Henson has been known for kino puppetry for decades and if any of them have watched sesame street as kids that should be enough.

I think it's just a Japanese poster for the series.

I agree. It's not that the Skeksis are evil, but they are nevertheless the bulk of the negative aspects of the UrSkek. The fear, the ambition, the hungers. These aren't necessarily bad things but left unchecked, as they were with the Skeksis, they went to extremes. Much the same way the Mystics weren't necessarily good. They were the more noble traits, yes, but left unchecked, as they were with the Mystics, they went to extremes. They kept themselves apart from the rest of the world and though they were wise and knowledgeable I think people forget that in The Dark Crystal's opening we learn that the Mystics have largely forgotten what their rituals even mean. They simply carry on, suffering from a kind of senility. They withdrew too far in their quest of their own pursuits and interests, much like Aughra, but at least she was tricked into it and when she snapped out of it she tried to help the world. They finally got off their fat asses when the thousand years was up and it was conjuction junction time.

Of course I get that they avoided direct conflict since killing each other merely killed themselves, and the Mystics at least played their part in keeping Jen safe, but still for how easy it is to cast them as good to the Skeksis evil they nevertheless are as wayward and decrepit. It's like that episode of old Trek when Kirk gets split by a transporter accident. The two sides can't really function properly without the other.

so do you think that even if a skeksis and mystic die, they're reunited in death?

Archer was wondering that too. so he decided to check it for himself. We don't know what he found out.

Eh, probably not until the conjunction happened. Then again maybe so. It's like Aughra said.

>"Dead? Hmph. Could be anywhere then."

HOES

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was it kino?

I don't understand why the Yea Forums threads for this are so awful

I was disappointed by the series.
It was beautifully built, fabulously crafted world and characters.
The writing is trite, unimaginative, and frankly does disservice to its source material. It is late, and I will likely post more of an explanation in the next thread.

It has the look, but not the same soul.

Some hours ago, I found one that was quite positive.

The funny thing is they're the most positive they've been for a show in a long time, so that's saying something.

Which is interesting. An attempt to balance out their natures by, sort of, relying on each other. The two halves not in the same being but still, sort of, working together.

Don't forget that as badass as Archer was, he was also a coward too afraid to actually confront the Hunter at the start. He insisted he would be no match for his "Darker half" despite the face that theoretically he should be the only one to actually be able to match him, his abilities are the only one that can actually counter Hunter's. But in reality, he was afraid of death, just like the Skeksis were. In the end he had to see the world through his 'others' eyes to understand what must be done, and it wasn't an easy choice for him.

The Mystics are good, but they're just as flawed too.

the same feeling as when you use the other hand to jerk off

To be honest, I was expecting the Archer to somehow snipe the Hunter all the way from the desert instead of just jumping off the spire.

Is it because of the weird retconning stuff in the writing? Like how the show mentioned that the Skeksis ruled for 1000 years, despite that the previous Great Conjunction that had the split happened 1000 years before the movie takes place?

During Deet's last flashforward you can see a Vapran female running along with a little bundle, a lot like Kira's memory, and the face looks like Brea's.

Calling it, they find a way to send the majority of gelfling forward in time, either via stasis somewhere hidden (caves of Grot? Dream-space?), or directly.

>Like how the show mentioned that the Skeksis ruled for 1000 years,
Almost a thousand years. 50 shy.
>despite that the previous Great Conjunction that had the split happened 1000 years before the movie takes place?
Right, 50 years after the events of the series. They had to cut it close to start the great war and kill off the Gelflings close enough for Kira to still be a child when the last village falls. Not a retcon, just liberal use of 'nearly'.

You have to sit on it for a bit so it goes to sleep, then it's'a gettin' real good.

Deet Violeta is at least S-tier in the power rankings, right?

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Next? I mean there's a good two hundred posts left so why wait?
I might be dead next thread man

Depends on whether she keeps absorbing more Darkening and gets better at wielding it
At the moment she's kind of a one shot glass cannon and most of the energy she releases seems to just hit the environment

you mean Diethyltoluamide púrpura

Jesus Christ Mira's murder was horrible. Even with Rian's dead expressionless face you felt his pain.

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Deetlet dis

Well he seemingly cooked that one up within minutes of adding Gruenak flesh to his experiment, so I'd say it was actually a matter of genetic engineering and then growing one super-quickly from the resulting sample. Presumably he'll just clone others.

I'm more curious about the first Garthim having blue eyes and being fully biological. I suspect that the emperor will enhance them with the Darkening at some point, which may leave them brainless and hollowed out by the time of the original movie. In the original lore from The World of the Dark Crystal, the Garthim were suggested to be evil, solid tulpa.

Apparently off doing something else, like the Ornamentalist was before she returned. They mention calling him back to the castle (along with the Mariner and the Satirist, IIRC) when they start to get worried. They also specifically mention that he's a good warrior.

Personally I want to know what his title was before he took over the General role and before there were Garthim to master.

>He watched while they essentially devoured her on screen
Brutal.

that certainly didn't help.
what just caused it all to fall apart was Rian saying "I'm no killer"

He went through that pain TWICE! Remember Chamberlain drank up the vial of what was left of her right in front of the poor dude when the Hunter caught him, he was helplessly shouting "MIRA" as all he could do was watch.

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>Chamberlain mocking Rian as he drank her essence
>Seladon eventually just becoming desperate and begging for the skeks to just spare her sisters
>Pretty much all the gelfling who came out of spider mind control strapped to the draining chairs
Shit was brutal

The lore book goes deeper into this; it's not good and evil, it's positive and negative furies, inspired by Eastern religion. To give put it another way, the urRu, which appear good to us, embody passivity, without the ability to act most of the time, while the Skeksis lean towards action, but have difficulty with reflecting on said actions. The Skeksis were actually pretty friendly and fun to party with when they were young, but they eventually fell to their own base hedonistic desires...

Also, something I haven't seen mentioned around here is that the Heretic has obviously undergone trepanation - he has a giant iron nail through the top of his skull. Traditionally this is supposed to be a way of opening the "third eye" and enhancing awareness. Given the inspiration for the lore, this physical change (performed against his will or possibly in accordance with it) may have opened his mind and enhanced his connection to his other half (which may explain why urGoh shares skekGra's blue skintone when all the other Mystics are the same leathery colour, as well as why urGoh is the least solemn and silliest mystic - just as skekGra is piggybacking urGoh's sense of compassion and empathy, urGoh is picking up skekGra's sense of humour and levity).

And then Chamberlain manages to make it even worst.

Anyone know what the fuck a "The OA" is and why it has so many fans reeing at the Dark Crystal and blaming the show for the OA's cancellation?

According to the actual description on google
>In addition to her role as creator and executive producer of this mind-bending series, Brit Marling also plays the role of Prairie Johnson, a young woman who returns home after a 7-year disappearance.

...seems a bit of an odd thing to push to get people interested but I don't know marketing.

OA is a live show on Netlfix about an evil doctor who abducted people to study Near death experience and got a silly dance out of it that allow to voyage to other realities and one o his experiment escaped and she accidentally started a cult and then the doctor and her and her boyfriend are on a race to outmatch each other.

Season 2 end on a sort of meta-cliff hanger where they become the actors playing them in the show, I have no idea where they can go from there nor how Dark Crystal has impacted in any way that show.

Did anyone else notice that some of the proto-neo-Urskek pair's puppets seemed to be based on Barnaby Dixon's techniques?

youtube.com/watch?v=sUUtK9FFIt4

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Any time a lowlife normie-tier Netflix show gets cancelled, it prompts its legions of braindead followers to spam Netflix's social media accounts to whine about saving it. Doesn't matter what the post is about, the top few replies are almost always guaranteed to be "#save[insert shitty show here]". I haven't seen anyone blame this show for the cancellation though, that'd be retarded.
I'm probably too quick to judge, we'll probably need to do the same thing if we want another season.

Indeed we did

Like someone else said, it seems more Eastern religion. They're not "good" and "bad." And the original complete UrSkeks in the comics are exiles and not "good" or "bad" per se. So it is possible to have selfish impulses but be a decent person, it's just harder over a long period of time and most of the Skeksis just never even bother to try anymore, even for a moment. Plus you can see skekGra as "enlighted" in some sense.

Even not looking at Eastern spirituality, there is an idea that it's possible to become something more than what you started as, bigger than what you are or just to evolve to become new, even though most of them just don't. Because it's unpleasant.

I've been seeing a bunch of tweets along the lines of "Netflix cancelled the OA to pour more money into Dark Crystal" and boycotting Dark Crystal and Netflix with seething frustration over the fact they both have Jason Isaacs in their cast.

Because it's actually him.
twitter.com/BarnabyJDixon/status/1168009166683697154

I liked the way Aughra, as basically Thra's version of Mother Nature, didn't really seem to have anywhere near as much of a problem with the Hunter as she did with the other Skeksis. She even said he was once the most beautiful to her, and seemed to be sad that he was on death's door.

Also nice to see that they had Aughra and skekTek address their ex-friendship, since his urSkek predecessor was supposed to have been the one who built the Orrery for her.

Because GOD FORBID more money spent into a work of unbridled passion that is quite possibly the most ambitious puppeteering project ever created over zoomer-bait programming.

That's really stupid. I hope Age of Resistance gets a Season 2 despite the OA complaints.

If this show gets cancelled because fags on twitter didn't get their show back, I am going to seethe with the fury of a thousand suns.

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>twitter.com/BarnabyJDixon/status/1168009166683697154
Based

Earlier last week I was messaging on a Dark Crystal thread that I was worried they were going to do the following
>pull generic Televised Series Bullshit Drama as seen on 90% of all televised series (no matter the genre) including but not limited to love triangles, betrayals, GOTCHA moments, dead not really lol, etc etc
They did do -some- of the last few, but in a way that was satisfying I think.
>That it would focus on trying to be LOTR/Narnia scale "le epic" and lose sight of what made the movie so good
They went for the epic, but KEPT the Dark Crystal vibe. Best of both worlds

It's a fucking great show. I legit felt bad when in the first episode Scrollkeeper was being nice. I know he was bullshitting but fuuuuuck I was legitimately hoping he was being a bro. However my desire for a good skeksis, inane and idiotic as that sounds was solved when they went to the Circle of the Sun. I love that duo.

I fucking loved how it was a lot of practical effects and CGI was kept to a minimum, reserved for scenes where puppetry really wouldn't be conceivable.

Deet is also best girl for hugs and nothing else.

I love how the Skeksis are given more... "humanity" and contemplate their existence BUT AT THE SAME TIME still come across as straight up evil "wouldn't-feel-bad-if-they-died-in-the-worst-possible-way" bad guys.

Loved the design and feel of the Hunter. He did feel like a legit threat that was notably a skeksis but one who could move better than others (read: like a fat fuck in walmart)

More fantastical designs keeping to the Dark Crystal atmosphere

Good to Great writing. Can't think of any bad moments.

I legit thought the General was Skekung the whole time, didn't realize they had different names until he died, where I had to reconsider how THAT'D work with the movie

Overall, fucking kino series. Can't wait for the inevitable BAD end that'll make me feel like shit.

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>"Alright, but Gelflings can look up."

Am I correct in thinking the Hunter used a different technique to the other Skeksis? He seemed to be more of a full-body suit with a fully-animatronic head than a rig with someone's arm in his head and another person managing the off-hand.

Or was his puppetry simply that good?

Although the rest of the prophecy she saw was scenes from the movies.

>dead not really lol
Using that with Skekmal was perfect because if you saw the movie you knew he should turn to dust, nice little reference without being in your face about it

Taron Egerton can barely keep his fanboy spaghetti from spilling in the making of documentary.

>Scrollkeeper was being nice. I know he was bullshitting but fuuuuuck I was legitimately hoping he was being a bro.
I liked that, because it make believable that the Gelfling actually consider the Skeksis as being good.

I'd advise watching the documentary, I think they mention it there.

I'm pretty sure he was full on suit with a few animatronic parts to move his beak and the like.

They probably did it that way so he'd move more energetically, be more of a threat on screen. You can /feel/ the bloodlust as he moves, straining not to kill something like a teenage boy in the 90's strains to not jack off as soon as he's found the cinemax channel until he's locked the door.

>and contemplate their existence
It's not a long bit but the scene when the Emperor and General talk before the battle in the season finale is one of my favorite parts
How they can only recall the time before being Skeksis as "suffering", thoughts that they can't actively remember, that they TRY to ignore but can't. And how despite how fervently they hate and fear what they WERE, SkekSo is even more afraid of what comes AFTER they die. With Aughra shit talking them about not being of Thra and mocking that death might be "nothingness"
It helps you see why he's so obsessed with cheating death, it's not just vanity, he's terrified of the oblivion that might be waiting for him on the other side

I wasn't entirely sure how that'd go, since in the movie we only saw ONE skeksis die that didn't involve being burnt in lava, and in Age of Resistance we don't see any Skeksis die until 'assumably' the Hunter, and the last episode is the only time we actually see a Skeksis die (three of them, but only two turn to dust)

Also, I'm chuckling at the thought of the Mystics chilling at their camp when out of nowhere a super-healthy mystic girl explodes

Why do the Mystics and Skeses look reptilian but the Urskek look nothing like the sum of their parts?

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That's awesome, I'd been hoping he'd hook up with the Hensons since I first saw him on Youtube. Jim would have adored his stuff and honestly with Brian being more of a workman and Lisa being a businesswoman, Barnaby is the only puppeteer I've seen in the last two decades who radiates Jim's level of enthusiasm, skill and artistry.

Devolution maybe? We'd look nothing like a chimp, especially when one looks healthy and the other is a hairless monster covered in scabs.

Tactics advance looks Dark Crystal eske too.

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a dark crystal rpg would be dope

>this entire post
God, I love this show so fucking much.

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Makes you wonder what it was like for SkekVar's counterpart when he was stabbed by Tavra, healed, then stabbed again, and then stabbed AGAIN
That's got to have been some shit

This shit looks like Labyrinth, I'm intrigued.

Do you have to watch the movie first tho?

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nope

No, since this series is a prequel to the movie.

Those motherfuckers still give me nightmare

Look at em just LOOK AT THEM

You'll understand everything fine just watching the show, they explain it all
But I think many here agree that you appreciate much of what the show does with the movie under your belt

But in any case, absolutely watch both regardless of order

>watched Labyrinth but not the additional Henson kino
NIGGA HOW
And no, but you probably should just because it's a great movie.

>I legit felt bad when in the first episode Scrollkeeper was being nice. I know he was bullshitting but fuuuuuck I was legitimately hoping he was being a bro.
My personal interpretation of that was that it was the last little flicker of friendliness in his soul flaring before they all started juicing on essence and their mindset finally degenerated to seeing the Gelfling as the route to feeding their addiction and staving off death.

I'll note that he didn't seem too disturbed by Brea giving him a hug (which was adorable), he just gently tells her to run along and then brushes the front of his coat almost absentmindedly.

>Shit my kidney

>Oh wait, I'm better now. Better than usual actually.

>Oh god my spleen!

Probably to emphasize how MUCH greater than the sum of their parts they were, to emphasize how otherworldly they are because they ARE aliens
I get it, of course, but aside from being ethereal and definitely out of left field for Thra, I think the urSkeks are kinda boring looking

They also mention if the series that Skeses no longer feel guilt or grief, so maybe they are just physically incapable of realizing they are evil.

"We know the torment that lies behind us, but what torment lies beyond this existence? All the more reason to to hold on to life with all claws, no matter the cost. "

Like chamberlain said, back then Gelfling were pets. You wouldn't give much of a shit if a puppy lept on your leg, but you'd brush the hair off.

But if that puppy could be made into cocaine laced with blowjobs from your dream girl/guy/other and a side of your favorite meal in a drink that goes down like the smoothest liquor you've ever drunk and you're already addicted to it?

Suddenly that puppy has a far more important purpose than pets.

It's one of those things like that one Revenge of the Sith shitposts where you want to wonder what it would have been like if things went just a little differently
If Scientist hadn't fucked with the Crystal just so, if Chamberlain hadn't come along and thought up stealing essence, if Mira hadn't wandered into the catacombs and been caught
Would the skeksis have turned to the full depths of their anger and depravity all the same, or would they have maintained some modicum of dignity and benevolence had temptation not been dangled in front of their beaks

I think he was legit happy he found someone who could read and write

/tg/ has had a few threads up but they've mostly been memes without much serious effort to figure out a proper system or any real details. Labor Day in the US so maybe the fa/tg/uys are at home tormenting their families with board games.

They always reminded me of those guys from the Starwars prequels.

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Made me curious whether those skills were actually so rare or if it was just unthinking condescension on his part, assuming that such lesser creatures as gelfling certainly would be illiterate by default

>skekMal going full General Grievous
ANOTHER GELFLING PELT FOR MY COLLECTION.

Wouldn't you be amazed if you found a dog that could read, let alone write?

I can kind of believe that. The skeksis seem to get pretty autistic about their hobbies and probably revel when someone else shares them.

They are making a Tactics game.
youtube.com/watch?v=wFUEDLralhY

The franchise is set in a middle-ages kinda setting. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to assume most of the population of Thra are illiterate. ESPECIALLY when you have Podlings fudging the numbers.

What once was, will never be again

>a single guy directed all 10 episodes

Fucking how

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They do appear to feel pity, which I'll point out isn't the same thing as empathy or sympathy. Sympathy stands next to the sufferer, empathy puts you in the same place as them, pity stands on a hill and looks down at them, glad not to be them.

They straight up bemoan SkekLach's death and say she never did anything bad to anyone who didn't deserve it, and they also seem sad in their own way about SkekMal being grievously wounded, born of their worry that it'll happen to them, and then they resolve to stick him in the throneroom so he can still be with them in eternity in some fashion.

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I wonder if the remaining unseen skeksis have the 'fuck shit up potential' anywhere near the hunter?

I didn't know Skeks had four arms.

>Assuming the princess of all gelfling is illiterate
>"you were never beautiful" to SkekLach
Scroll keeper was on some hot banter from the very beginning

the skeksis and mystics both have four arms each. skeksis are just too lazy to use all of them.

Yeah, one notable thing in the original movie was that Kira couldn't read or write, so it would appear that literacy is at the very least not a commonly taught skill among the podlings.

When you read books for a living you have the time to come up with some sick burns.

SkekUng is the most likely candidate
If the crew are truly /ourguys/ they'll have his arrival be the real point where the Resistance starts getting its shit kicked in after he masters HIS DEADLY GARTHIM

>a super-healthy mystic girl explodes
>Hm?
"Something wrong?"
>I felt a tickle. Do you suppose something is going on-
SPLAT

Kira was raised by Podlings so is not that strange that she couldn't read.

SkekUng is mentioned in the lore book as ripping apart gelfling with his bare hands.

I expect his return to the castle next season to be a big moment.

I think the Slavemaster might be dope, personally.

That's... exactly what I said, yes.

skekUng (the general in the movie) possibly could, especially since he led the Garthims and he's said to delight in torture

To the point where most skeksis' secondary arms have atrophied.

The wargear the scientist made for them seemed to use the secondaries, though, so they apparently have enough power left in them to hurl shuriken.

I can't wait to see him RAGE from SkekSil fucking with him constantly

Maybe Podlings speak other language, maybe they know how to read but not in the Gelfling tongue.

In the interviews he's repeatedly said The Dark Crystal was THE film that inspired him to be a filmmaker. I imagine the pressure he put on himself was insane, especially when he's never worked with puppets before.

>I'M STILL.....AAAHHHHHhhhhh....

She didn't know what writing was at all. Jen had to explain to her that it was "words that stay".

Besides which, the urRu at least seem to use the same script the Gelfling did, and the backstory stuff has the urSkeks being the ones to teach the Gelfling (and only the Gelfling) to read and write.

This sounds weird but I hope the Mariner is a secret badass, just to fuck with everyone. She's absolutely unstoppable, unkillable and able to win each and every victory in seconds.

But never gets off her boat.

I WILL
NEVER
BE
DUUUUUUUST

I think he's the one most likely to lay a smackdown on the whimpering worm.

Speaking of worms... triple stream. Holy crap.

Nothing like a leak after crushing the palace guard revolt

Her boat in the books is basically an enslaved Gamera that she uses like a living submarine.

Now I REALLY wanna see the Mariner, that sounds badass.

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Skeksis don't do shit by halves.

>I want a boat. I know, I'll enslave a living creature and use it's internal organs as storage space because fuck wood, if I travel something needs to suffer every goddamn nautical mile.

Here's the illustration

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I really wanna see SkekSa too, especially since she's the only "female" of the Skeksis.

>She looks almost as fit as /k/bird
Oh fuck the hell yes.

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Best Skeksis
Which GoT character is that?

I'm pretty sure if this was ever on screen my boner would never go away.

For the rest of my life I would have a tent in my pants that could hang christmas ornaments and that would be just fine.

>She
All the Skeksis and UrRu are male, regardless of how fucking fruity the Ornamentalist and Collector are.

This was probably the best acting Simon Pegg has ever done.

>All the Skeksis and UrRu are male
they're both, actually. They're supposed to be an "uncomfortable" mishmash of both sexes

No, they got both sets of parts.

Actually they have no genders at all, they're two halves of asexual tree looking motherfuckers. They just use whatever pronouns they feel like.

Kind of telling that the ones who identify with male pronouns appointed all females to be Maudra now, thinking about it.

Actually, canonically the skeksis, at least, are hermaphrodites, they just express differently.

Aughra too, though by the time of the movie her male side has "withered away".

Maudra is literally just a Gelfling word for mother.

>109733934
Maudrah don't need puny pronon, Maudrah only refer to Maudrah as Maudrah.

Season 2 now plz

The Mariner kind of looks like a crocodile. Appropriate.

This absofuckinglutely needs to be in S2
>Rian, the gang, and the Sifa go up against a swashbuckling pirate Skeksis and Garthim army on a living ship in a PotC tier battle
IMAGINE

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or a parrot

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Why did they tone down Aughra's tiddies so much in the prequel?

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Its moments like these we really need Mystics and Skeksis talking to each other.

>What...the fuck... did you do... to my... hand?

>where is your father now
Hunter was savage.

>The same thing you did to my tail you slow talking son of a fizzgig.

Hoping to see this dude in action if Season 2 happens, especially since he was described as bing good in a fight.

skekUng was described as being good in a fight.
skekNa wasn't mentioned at all.

Also a raptor

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It'd be awesome if she kept her feathers through relatively more healthy living, same way SkekMal stayed fit.

Male half hadn't quite withered yet?

Wondering if we'll get to see how he lost the arm, and what induced SkekTek to replace his. He's supposed to have done so as part of his personal experiments.

I'm going to guess SkekNa comes in when they start experimenting with draining podlings and they find that they shrivel instead of poofing. I'm also going to guess that before he was the Slave Master he was the Jailer/Warden and possibly the Executioner. He might be off operating a "reeducation" camp for "wayward gelflings".

Also makes me wonder when SkekTek upgrades to the reflector version of the draining system, the current one looks like it's part of why the crystal keeps getting worse.

I really want to see Chamberlain and his Mystic square off, dude apparently could calm a thunderstorm with his voice.

>she's the only "female"
Wasn't the one with the beak pustules female? it had a female voice.

iirc they said 'she' after skeklach got exploded

The Collector. She kept on going on about once being beautiful, too.

And the Ornamentalist, who had a "man pretending to be a woman" voice in the movie was actually voiced by a lady here.

I think we can say there's a few female-identifying skeksis, yeah.

Weird, since I've seen alot of sources describing skekLach as a dude.

skeklach is a dude in the books and such. the series is probably retconing that

Looks like Ultraman's trophy case.

>Also makes me wonder when SkekTek upgrades to the reflector version of the draining system, the current one looks like it's part of why the crystal keeps getting worse.
Aggressively zapping the Crystal with lightning bolts? probably

The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance
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Yeah, every time he does it there's this horrible grinding noise and little cracks appear... it's amazing how bad it makes you feel to watch it.

I'm also wondering why they eventually went back to sapping energy from the crystal via eye-beams, with the narrator confirming it does help extend their lives just a little.

I'm theorising that it has something to do with the way you can see lightning strikes being channeled to the castle at the start of the film, and the fact that, IIRC, when you see them do it in the movie it's a lesser conjunction, not simply sunlight.

>I'm also wondering why they eventually went back to sapping energy from the crystal via eye-beams
You mean in the movie where they're all standing around and then it gives them the purple beam? That was the mini Conjunctures, where two of the sun aligned. It was establishing the alignment focused the power through the crystal so you understood why the Great Conjuncture was a big deal. That's the meta reason at least, but I guess the actual movie is showing that the conjuncture embues power to Thra?

That's what I went on to guess in the rest of my comment, yes.

>General, you will take Chamberlain's place at my side.
>I am honored, sire.
>No! You are commanded.
KINO

SkekLach was a dude in the Tokyopop manga set during the Garthim raids and was this Tetsuya Nomura looking motherfucker.

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They ran out of Gelflings so they had to survive on what they could still get out of the crystal. It got so bad that the only essence they could get was from podlings and even that meager amount could only be taken by the Emperor, the rest had to go dry.

They had /really/ fucked over Thra by that point, if Jen hadn't had done something the entire planet might have died.

I hope you're still here user, I've been considering the books but don't read much. Should I give them a go?

>All claws
Might be a bit of a problem for him AYOOOOO

Like SkekMal, she never cared for the politics of the Skeksis court or SkekSo's rule and took off to the seas, only really getting pulled back into the Skeksis fold when the Sifa end up rejecting her dubious offer of leading an expedition across the sea to escort them to lands out of the other Skeksis reach. Between abandonment from the Gelflings and the general backstabby nature of her brethren, ends up just getting more unhinged.

>>Pretty much all the gelfling who came out of spider mind control strapped to the draining chairs
>but I was loyal!
>laughs in bird

Sounds like Skekmal and her should have hooked up.

>WIIIIIIITH UPGRAAAAAAAAAADES
SkekTek is one of the biggest highlights of the first half

Dude just wanted to run around killing shit. The hunt was all the companionship he wanted

They literally say there's nothing left in the crystal, though, hence my speculation on the channeled lightning power and the lesser conjunctions. Remember that the series starts off with SkekTek intending to try and power the crystal electrically before he gets distracted by the essence discovery; he might have been moderately successful later on with natural lightning.

(I did enjoy how much the series let the Skeksis show their magitek off, from electrical wiring to semi-living carriages to even having near-literal cattle prods...)

>They had /really/ fucked over Thra by that point, if Jen hadn't had done something the entire planet might have died.
Yes, in fact I'm pretty sure that's spelled out in the opening narration, isn't it? And then we see that only the swamp where the podlings live and the high mountains protected by Aughra and the valley shielded behind the Mystics' wards have much life left, everywhere else seems to be barren as hell.

I've actually only read The World of the Dark Crystal, which is pure worldbuilding, as the title implies. I haven't read the new novels, though I want to.

TWotDC is great, but older copies are quite pricey last time I checked. They might reprint it, I'm not sure.

enough of a yes for me, I'm a lore freak so that sounds perfect

In Episode 9, skekNa was specifically mentioned along with skekSa as a suggestion to call back to the castle when the Skeksis were figuring out how to deal with the Gelfling rebellion.

I'm just saying I want to see Skekmal hunt a whale while she ferries him around.

With his bare claws.

Wasn't that SkekUng, SkekSa and SkekLi?

Forgot to tag

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All four of them got a mention I believe.

Now I just see her looking over the edge while he swims his ass towards a giant fuckoff seaserpent thing, we're talking so big it could swallow a ship and just asking if he wants a ride.

He doesn't.

So when does the poor treasurer turn up and what has he been doing all this time?

Scrooge McDucking it around Thra?

Was he not the voice of the recording Lore played? Sounded like Yoda so I assumed that was him.

>guys... where ...... is ... my... eye?

>I'm... sure... its... around... here... some-SPLAT!

>What... the fuck... just happened... to her?

>What... the fuck... are our other... halfs... doing?

>I got... spleen... in my... eye...

>She... was... hot... nooooooooo.

You have inspired me

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fucking kekkled
well done, friend, well done

>that scene where the Emperor let's Seladon dig herself in deeper and deeper, just for the laugh of seeing how far she'll go.
>... no!
>... No!
>... NO!
Bitch deserved to get taken down a few pegs, but even I felt bad for her after that.

The new novels are basically what Naia, Kylan, and Gurjin were doing off-screen mixed with what seem like early outlines for the show. Like Tavra's more fleshed out and the spider connection's handled differently, a Grottan boy named Amri joins their party when searching the Caves of Grot for a legendary magic flute to help spread the word of the rebellion, and there's barely any Brea or Deet. Like Deet just kinda shows up at the last minute with Rian and the Dual Glaive at Stonewood.

The author ended up working on the show, but it kinda feels like they found themselves in an awkward spot when wrapping the book side of things up. Or maybe I'm just spoiled by other expanded universes handling overlapping story material more cleanly.

No, brutal was skekTek bashing the slaves fucking head in.
>starts bludgeoning the slave
>"damn that's kind of dark
>blood splatters onto the little furry caged animal
>mfw

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Perfect. Good job user.

So... does that mean the novels are non-canon now the show exists?

It was interresting. you could tell she had a fixed vision of how the world should work and when the very basis of her believe just spit in her face how wrong she was, you can see how she desperately try to still maintain the bits together with that saliva, hoping against all reasons tat some bits of it will still stand.

He'd probably say working with puppets is easy. It's only seven people who cannot see anything doing something unnatural and in sync to make it look like one thing is doing something natural. It's getting actors to do what you want is hard.

I mean, the comics and novels and shit were always EU tier at best.

>Or maybe I'm just spoiled by other expanded universes handling overlapping story material more cleanly.
There is no such thing.

I personally take them in Broad Strokes, but yeah, pretty much. The first one, Shadows of the Dark Crystal, is the least screwy of the batch if you want to be a stickler though. They still have value from a worldbuilding standpoint in terms of showcasing the different clans.

Probably the difference in that the mystics and skeks are affected by physics and mortality while the Urskeks are tripping on cosmic awareness.

>especially when he's never worked with puppets before.
Wait, WHAT? Also, where is the source that it's Netflix who wanted it to be puppets?

Nope, the Heretic is voiced by Andy Samberg.

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He looks like that guy from Mad Max. The friendly War Boy guy.

>Jim! Witness me!

kek
We need a chad Hunter vs virgin General

>YEETS the nigga down the fire-channel
"Damn, that's brutal"
>Advances on the other who is quaking in terror
"Daaamn"
>GRINDHOUSE.EXE
"DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN"

Something that always kinda bothered me
How the hell do these things divided make one half that are a bunch of lizard people and the other half make a bunch of bird people

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It's in the documentary and multiple interviews for the show. TJHC pitched it to Netflix as an animated show (They cite ATLA as a primary influence) but Netflix asked if they could use puppets instead.

>But we ARE draining them!
A decent chunk of the series is the Skeksis frantically attempting damage control to keep the knowledge secret
Then Seladon arrives and they've given up every pretense of giving a SINGULAR fuck

Well, to speculate, maybe it's something like reptile brain = primitive and splitting = symbolic devolution?

What was the best scene of the season?

My money goes to the puppet show - the thought of a man controlling a puppet that in turn was controlling even smaller puppets blew my goddamn mind.

Ka comes up in cthulu mythos, I think. It's probably some weird sea god to the gelflings.

As the Emperor said.
>"The All-Maudra was a shepard, and now it's time TO HARVEST THE HERD!"

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Definitely the dreamfasting scene leading up to Aughra hearing the song of Thra and taking them all to Dreamspace. That whole sequence was really well done.

What's that sound the Chamberlain makes again?

I get why people shit on Seladon, but why doesn't anyone get on Mayrin's case for being dumb and getting herself murdered?

She basically told to their face, "hey I know your evil plans about farming my species now so you better stop" to the unstable general with a big fuck off sword, what did she THINK was going to happen?

To be fair a Queen doesn't expect outright murder often given her death was a big deal and diplomatic incident. Killing the Queen isn't something done lightly and having just then learned of it hadn't realized how far they were willing to go.

ROCK-A-DOOOOOOOOOODLE

Definitely the scene where the Chamberlain scolds Rian in the carriage.

This user is right, she's a puppet (kek) put into her position to putter around, pass and uphold meaningless laws, and generally maintain stability in a time when there are no real violent rivalries between factions, no major wars, no famines until very recently, no plagues, etc. In spite of being a fundamentally strong willed and intelligent character she's still completely inexperienced in how you go about handling potentially murderous situations. Unlike most real world politicians that's not something she ever deals with.

The other guys are the puppeteers.

How did Durik survive this long?

The Skeksis were already a political rival, and one with that was clearly treated as the superior power in their relationship, she saw they had no qualms about murdering them and would gladly start a war if only because it would just speed up the process of harvesting them.

Hup going Jackie Chan on the Stonewood gelflings.

I'll just list off my favorites, I have too many.
>Mira draining
>Peeper Beetle ceremony
>any Hunter scene
>Hup going apeshit
>Rian and Chamberlain's carriage convo
>Dream Space scene
>campfire memorial
>puppet show
>Gelfling guards getting slaughtered trying to rebel
>Seladon's entire world getting ripped apart right in front of her. You know the one.
>General and Emperor's mortality convo
>Deet fucking tanking the Darkening and unleashing it upon the Skeksis
>"You stole my seat"

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Scrub who didnt grow up with the film but thinks this looks cool as shit.
Chronological order or release order?

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Release order.

Sure. But at the same time, I imagine basic survival instinct should kick in and you wouldn't want your predator to realize what its prey knows

Either.

>Cushy job as a LARP noble your entire life
>Survival instinct

Fair enough

Whatever mood you're in

I'd argue AoR is a little more accessible. Easier to go into without context.

I'm pretty sure that scene was put in to take away any sympathy the viewers had for the scientist

Try AoR first

Do you guys think the first Garthim will be special apart from being first? It does have blue eyes, when even the one in Deet's glimpse of the future has purple ones.

>"You stole my seat"
The way he twists the knife after he says it is pure artistry.

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But the great convergence is supposed to be when the crystal is put in, right?

Its just there to visually symbolize how the mystics are slow in their movement and skeksis are erratic in theirs.

It's something to do with the idea that two halves when put together create something completely different and elevated.

The Great Conjunction was a special alignment of Thra's three suns that only happened every thousand trine or so
Basically a great celestial event when crazy shit could happen, like splitting or remaking the urSkeks

I just finished the first episode.
Is it ever explained why the history is different from that of the original?
Like, there is no mention of the Mystics or the the combined creatures? Or why there are so few Skeksis when, I thought, the movie mentioned they existed in great numbers?

I think it has something to do with the Darkening.

Keep watching.

it gets explained in a later ep

I'm so excited to enter this new age of comfy Dark Crystal posting. Let's hope our future is bright and for more content soon to come. Love you all.

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Keep watching. They’re all explained.

It's actually a tie between Seladon showing up at the council and Seladon showing up in the skeksis court.

Cool, I was just worried they weren't even going to mention it and just retconned things for no reason.

Man, this series was just so good that A) I wish I'd watched it slower, like one episode a day, to savour it, and B) I'm afraid that we're going to pay for it cosmically, like something else that was good will be cancelled.

>the movie mentioned they existed in great numbers
Not exactly, just MORE than the ten that are still around by the time it starts. The outer lore has usually held pretty consistent about it being 18 from the start. 20 if you still count the two pairs that died immediately

Reminder that Ung and Na's faction includes the Scientist as well. Maybe they will take advantage of how much the others shit on him to manipulate him somehow.

Honestly the bar's set so low all they'd have to do is not physically kick the fucker to win his loyalty.

It'd be interesting if SkekUng won SkekTek's loyalty by honestly complimenting him for the Garthim and SkekTek appreciated SkekUng's ability to command them. Skeksis do seem capable of friendship after a fashion; the Gourmand and the Ornamentalist seem pretty close.

There's also the fact that SkekUng is SkekSil's foil, and SkekTek's got to appreciate that on some level.

Oh, but then again, there is that scene of SkekUng raging and calling the Scientist a fraud in the movie. Though he doesn't complain afterwards other than to whine that it always worked better with gelfling.

I rarely say this, but start with the AoR. I only say this because the world is so dense that the series gives you a bit more of a guide going into the film, and some scenes will feel more coherent when you get the backstory.

I sadly think we'll be paying for it by the show just being cancelled. Yes, the critical response is glowing but the social media response is pitiful for a big budget Netflix show like this. The minimal marketing for this series isn't helping either. I think the only way we'll get another season is if Netflix is feeling EXTREMELY generous for no reason (Unlikely since Disney+ is going straight for the head and Netflix needs surefire successes more than ever) or if the word of mouth is strong enough. Either way, I'm really concerned for the show's future. My only solace is that Netflix has consistently referred to this show as season 1 of something, so there's a slight glimmer of hope a S2 is already planned.

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Only a few episodes left, and I’m really digging it. It’s actually a fantastic companion piece to the movie.

To be honest if you go by the original novel's characterization of SkekUng he's practically /loyal/ by Skeksis standards.

That is to say he was the type of guy who'd just chop your fucking head off as soon as you pissed him off not go through 3 different plots just to stab you to death as you lie wounded on the battlefield later.

So... when Jen and Kira find the Wall of Destiny with the mural, is that supposed to be Stone-in-the-Wood, or the Drenchen capital (because it's in a swamp)?

Either way I swear I remember seeing a trefoil symbol there like the one in the show.

The Hunter was such a bad motherfucker. My jaw dropped at how much of a Terminator he was. You also know he’s scary when the Skeksis, who have a rule not to kill their own kind, are scared he’s going to gut them.

I am extremely glad they did Skeksil correctly, and Pegg was 10/10. Still the best character in the franchise.

Also a show stealer next to Skeksil and the Hunter.

Skek Na is a big blank canvas as far as characterization goes, except for the fact that he has to be cruel to non-skeksis. Maybe he and Skek Tek have a rapport.

Didn’t Skekung claim he made the Garthim? What’s his involvement with them if he didn’t?

Hmm
I think it’s be more significant if it was the stonewood in ruin but it might even be an entirely different place since at this point NO ONE should know much about the prophecy

He’ll fucking punch one’s head clean off after it ignores his commands and establish unshakable dominance over the rest

>SkekTek built him his hook when a gelfling cut his hand off

The old lore books claim SkekTek built them under SkekUng's direction, basing them on the sea creatures of the urSkek homeworld, I think.

Possibly this will be interpreted in the second season as "SkekTek built them, then SkekUng field-tested them and (forcefully) suggested refinements".

No, he is right. it's almost as if they wrote Resistance to be watched first.

Would just like to say we were right about Jen and Kira's clan ancestry. Jen wears the Stonewood seal on his shirt and Kira wears the Vapra one.

>Chamberlain’s the one who cracked the Crystal
Man, the other Skeksis really underestimate how much of a motherfucker he can be.

Pics pls

So, Rian doesn't end up with Brea? Seeing Kira could talk to animal, I imagined Deet was her mother, but her mother is seen in the movie, now, I remember, and she doesn't look like Deet.

Kira also has their white hair and pale skin

That's interesting, considering Jen's clothing was made by the urRu (I believe it's patterned off their dream coats) and Kira's almost certainly by the podlings, unless the podlings found old Vapran clothing.

Yeah, that threw me off. I never thought she was more than simply aware of what went wrong.

Here ya go
I think I was wrong on the Vapran seal, but that necklace did belong to a Vapran.

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Keep in mind, this is 50 years prior to the movie. Depending on how long gelfling take to sexually mature and how old Jen and Kira were, the AoR cast could easily be their grandparent's generation.

Chamberlain’s an ice cold fucker. That scene where he’s talking Rian into willingly going with him back to the Emperor was awesome.

Skeksis is to gelfling as gelfling are to crawlies

I honestly think he'd make a better emperor and would actually have more than 2 gelflings alive

I agree. I feel like he'd go for a blissful ignorance approach and keep things about the way they are but with more random Gelfling kidnappings plaguing Thra.

If he wants to be emperor so bad, why doesn't he undergo a trial for it? Maybe a trial by stone.

he's also the only one who didn't turn into a coke addict after having some essence

TRIAL BY STOOOOOOOOOOONE

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>almost 600 replies
The Crystal Boomers are here to stay lads

I wonder if they've made this as of AoR. It was an attempt to make a more powerful stone than the Crystal of Truth (and Aughra says that they might actually have succeeded at that if they hadn't fallen to bickering), and they turned away from worshipping it when they realised it was a bust and instead took to hitting it with swords as a form of contest.

So what's going to happen when the emperor runs into that arbitrary 50 gelfling number for immortality and realizes he's not immortal at all?

They definitely have. When Seladon wants to do the Trial by Air, the others remark on how trials like that are Skeksis traditions (See: Trial by Stone, Trial by Fire)
Autistic screeching, then full-blown genocide

Yeah, but that just means the Skeksis like trials, not that they have this particular trial yet.

Just wondering if it might be part of the Scientist's story line in the second season.

Keep in mind the scientist said 50 every trine.

He needs to milk 50 a year to stay alive as he is.

Kind of defeats the point if he chugs that shit like a black kid does Flavor-aid on a hot summer day.

The thing is the Skeksis hierarchy is based on strength. The Emperor at the end of the day is not only cunning, but he’s first and foremost the most ruthless and aggressive of them. Even the General, who saw everyone around him as inferior and weak, had complete faith in his Emperor.
The Chamberlain as an Emperor would be the most intelligent and the smoothest, but he doesn’t command enough of a presence and isn’t physically dangerous enough to keep the other Skeksis in line. Skekung was similar in that fashion, though a bit dumber than Skekso.

Seladon getting btfo'd by the Emperor.

>Can you free the Stone-in-wood?
>No.
>What about 7 Gelflings from each clan for peace
>No.
>You can have everyone just spare my sisters
>Bitch what did I JUST say?

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Pretty much anything with the Chamberlain, the Scientist, or the Hunter.

I wonder if Isaacs is going to make his voice more scratchy and high-pitched as the series goes on.

>>It's a Deet making bombs episode

Are those his withered second pair of hands lying behind him?

Look like it.

>2016
Thunderbolt Fantasy
>2017
Thunderbolt Fantasy movie
>2018
Thunderbolt Fantasy 2
>2019
Dark Crystal Age of Resistance
>2020
Thunderbolt Fantasy 3
>2021
Dark Crystal 2

Can a man hope to dream for more puppet?

Wasn't the ornamentalist supposed to be a dude?

First time around the Ornamentalist was voiced by a guy trying to sound either "sissy" or female, in AoR they're voiced by a woman, so I assume the intent now is that they identify as female.

Because Yea Forums is awful. Shitposter, PhD, not know this?

Always wondered this as a kid too. Also, how the mystics got four fucking arms.

I do not avoid Skeksis, but I do deny them my essence.

Unfortunately, I absolutely know why. They didn't think there were enough females on the Skeksis cast. Pretty jarring to go from that entertaining voice from the movies to "him" just flat out being some random chick now.

*movie

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