Flash Forward: Wally West gets Lobdell

This is an understatement

And they paired him with Booth for maximum 90s mediocrity

Is Lobdell good? Does he have the potential to make really good stories?

Thank God Wally won't be in The Suicide Squad.

As far as I'm aware, the only good thing Lobdell has written is Red Hood and the Outlaws Rebirth.
And that's probably still arguable.

This is worse than Heroes in Crisis

>Red Hood and the Outlaws Rebirth

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>written by SCOTT LOBDELL
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

The only enjoyable works of Lodbell had arguably the influence of the artist. Generation X and Red Hood. The moment Bachallo and Dexter S.o.y., leave their respective books, the quality take a nosedive.

Bendis would do a better job than Lobdell.

Let's not get nuts

Lobdell is sub-Jurgens but he's still enough of a company man to do basic research about how the fucking speed force works

King's trash means we'll have to deal with Dark Phoenix style "I can't control it" bullshit for years to come

I hope they're happy.

Williamson is a Barryfag

Literally the worst possible options.

I'm livid.

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>he's still enough of a company man to do basic research about how the fucking speed force works
You kidding me? Lobdell can't even keeps his own ideas straight.

Holy shit I can barely tolerate fucking Lobdell, but Booth too!?
Who the fuck hates Wally so much?

Didio, same as it ever was

>research about how the fucking speed force works
However the writer decides it works that week?
You aren't being serious, are you?

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They had it coming

Booth is a huge Wallyfag, he probably begged on his knees for this

Nope, he's a Wallyfag. See: Literally any issue he got to write Wally

I like Williamson's Flash but it's very funny how the quality improves a bunch when Wally's in the book

>white men need to redemption simply for the crime of wanting to exist
I know DC has gone hard on leftwing identity politics just like marvel but even that is extreme. most of their stories can be summed up with "white men are bad and evil and should make way for women and people of color"

>Scott Lobdell
I'm not excited, but it could be worse

>Brett Booth
Why is this man still getting work. Especially with Flash properties?

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Rebirthtards love him so this is a match made in Heaven.

>women and people
>women
>and people
Somare gay men the only ones who haven't commited bestiality?

Fucking BAR-TOR.

Great. We are stuck with his sorry dated style because he likes the character.

if it was just Lobdell, it would be one thing. Lodbell I can tolerate, but Brett Booth guarantees that I won't read this.

and they'll pump shit out. Who knows how long we're stuck with this

is this the famed monkey's paw

So Scott Lobdell will do Wally West what he did to Bart Allen.

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Why did OP show good art of Wally and not Booth's art of Wally?

ow the edge
typical for DC

Why aren’t they saying if it’s a ongoing or mini

He needs redemption for killing people mutilating the bodies framing an innocent and Harley and leaking private information

DC died with Flashpoint.

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it's the cover

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>Scott Lobdell

Finishing the job that King started, are we?

have you overlooked the "of color" part?
also what do you mean with the "bestiality"

Harley and Ivy have killed more people yet they never needed redemption. we are supposed to like them simply because they are not white men.
DC could have easily made a positive comic which saw his return but they needed to turn him into a murder and loser to fit their agenda

The leaking part of the story did lead to anything or even get resolved?

He is still the fastest man alive.

>Lobdell
>Booth
Lol fuck you, DC.

I bet the decision was this "Wally is now a damaged freak. Lobdell has been writing messed freaks since the New 52 - Red Hood following Morrison's Batman and Robin, Arsenal following Rise and Fall of Arsenal, and Starfire following REBELS - so lets give him this damaged Wally. He'll do great with the character!

Not in the actual continuity. At least Harley. And not other heroes who in the very least are acquaintances, so the fact Wally mutilate their corpses is very messed up.

So it's lies. Fucking kikes.

It was pointless

This is so bad. Wally has not nor even been a damaged freak. Fuck King for making this shit up and fuck the retards that agree with him.

>written by SCOTT LOBDELL
>art by BRETT BOOTH
The last time that combo happened we got New 52 Teen Titans

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In better news, The Wonder Twins and Dial H for Hero got extended to 12 issues

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>Speed force, ain't gotta explain shit

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This is why Wallyfags deserve lobdell.

Woah really? Bitching. Small blessings

Fuck you too Kingfag. I hope your mother gets raped. Wally is fucking innocent.

Wonder twins is the first time I think the politics is getting in the way of the story with a mark russel's book.

Same thing happened with Lone Ranger, and let's be honest his Porky Pig story was also a piece of shit.

Being a DC fan is getting so tiresome.

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What dirt does Lobdell have on DC editors? Why does he keep getting work?

He a crook.

He's friends with Jim Lee and Bob Harras, do whatever they ask, write his scripts on the fly, and will change whatever they tell him pronto without complaints. But the most important detail is that he's friends with Lee and Harras.

Why wouldn't he? What's the difference between him and Jurgens who still keep getting books?

It involves a company trip to Vegas in the 90s a dead hooker, and a lifelong friendship sealed over a shallow grave in the desert.

It would be a great Flash costume if they would just cover his whole head. Better than Barry's current one at least, with the Jim Lee lines everywhere.

This

>What's the difference between him
Jurgens is not a Rapist.

Dude get a trip so I can ignore you. Nobody cares about your spamming (which is a bannable offense) that he is rapist. Call him a shit writer (which he is) but stop making shit up.

It's on the records that Scott Lobdell sexually harass co-workers and fans.

aren't you thinking about eddie berganza

What records. Don't say shit and don't use sources. This isn't tumblr, despite what the other boards would like you to believe.

>Lobdell was the only straight person on the panel. He excused losing his train of thought on being distracted by MariNaomi’s lipstick, grabbing her stained drinking glass as a visual aid for the audience. When her microphone drooped on a lose hinge, he made the joke illustrated by MariNaomi at the top of this article. After recounting one story from her graphic memoir, of innocently mistaking her first attraction for a woman as a food craving, he asked if she had then had an orgasm while eating. After receiving a response in the negative, he implied that she must have mistaken her sexual identity, and really only be into men. He asked her if he had a chance of appearing in a sequel to her first book, a memoir of her adolescent sex life. After the panel, when introduced to her husband, Lobdell became immediately contrite and apologized… but only to MariNaomi’s husband. During the after panel group shot, he made a racist remark about her Asian facial features.
>themarysue.com/scot-lobdell-sexual-harassment/
The only thing I can find is this. He's more of a retard who's never had to deal with HR than a rapist.

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He is not a rapist, but he is a creep. Jurgens is bland and whatnot but at least probably can had the moral high ground against Lobdell.

>SCOTT LOBDELL
I like this.

Speed Buggy and Wally was pretty good

...yet

King's a fraud who can't even stay on his Batman contract.

That was a one-shot. Lobdell will crash this series by the third issue with Bar-torr 2.0

>you pearl clutching faggots don't even realize that they already did a Wally West story and it was great

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Actually, yeah.

>Lobdell Defense Force doesn't want to acknowledge that the last time Lobdell had to follow up King shit we got Ric Grayson

>marysue
Find a better source, faggot. This is possibly worse than the Huffington Post

Agreed.

Wasn't that cause the real writer got Me Too'd?

This. Good grief.

Ugh, Brett Booth sucks

No, the Border Town guy was supposed to co-write, then take over Ric Grayson.
Then all that news came out, and Lobdell stayed on

I was really hoping a Wally book was what Doc Shaner was teasing doing interiors on too

Not in the slightest

You can look at the original solicits for proof

>Find a better source
Of something that barely counts as harassment from minor comic book writers? Yeah alright I'll try and get that 6,000 word article the New Yorker published.

>Google Lobdell to see what he's done besides RHaTO
Oh god. Ghostbusters: Displaced Aggression was kino though, so let's hope he can unfuck King's meddling.

He was supposed to be out with Rebirth but Geoff Johns didn't want to lose his talents.

>implying Ric Grayson wasn't King shit that Lobdell had to script

Yeah, but have you considered Booth's atrocious art?

I don't know Lobdell from anything besides Happy Death Day and that's some good time travel shit

I’ll give Lobdell a chance. His Speed Buggy crossover was okay. And anything is better than King at this point.

talents?

Geoff Johns does too

no he doesn't.

According to Rebirthfags, he's the modern day Alan Moore, along with Tomasi and Tynion.

He wrote that Happy Death Day movie too, which surprisingly wasn't too shit

They're both friends with Jim Lee so they're guaranteed work for the rest of their lives.
I thought Lobdell was quitting comics to focus on Hollywood though, guess that didn't pan out.

King doesn't think ahead enough to clean up his damage, he just wanted to have Dick out of the picture so Batman could continue to be sad man

Ric is either all on Lobdell or it's him yes-manning for Didio, pick your poison

why doesn't Jim bring back his bff Brandon Choi instead

Fuck that noise.

Lobdell's fans are nu52 trash from red hood crap.

Who do you think is actually in that grave

he wrote a short in the Wildstorm anniversary book

Harras and him saved the industry in the 90s

No you fucktard, the problem is that Marysue is notoriously unreliable and SJW neoliberal trash.

In Geoffrey's eyes.

WHAT THE FUCK. I love that movie, I had no idea. The most inventive slasher movie of the last twenty years.

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why does dc hate wally and wallyfags so much

>doc shaner cover and promo pic
this is the ultimate fuck you

Ironically Lobdell should have been to write Heroes in Crisis since the idiot actually has a degree in psychology and not some desk jockey nut that got upset that CIA rapes nuns in third world shitholes and self inserted into Wally.

plus Lobdell wrote the biggest, most successful event ever made

Still with the fake news from the anti-King brigade? Ric was editorials idea. Tom just wanted him getting shot as a cliffhanger. Never demanded it be reflected in his solo

Chill out user. Whoever posted the link to the Mary Sue want trying to perpetaute the claim that Lobdell is a rapist
>The only thing I can find is this. He's more of a retard who's never had to deal with HR than a rapist.
>barely counts as harassment
It seems to me user is pointing out that the evidence is flimsy at best, which seems like it's your stance as well.

Shut the fuck up retard, King said with his own mouth that it was his idea to shoot him in the head. Editorial came up with Ric because King wanted Dick to be a drooling bumbling mess and Tim would fill out as Nightwing and teach Dick how to talk and eat.

No he wouldn't.
He only know how to write three kinds of characters.
Nevious, snarky generic teens.
Drama queens with a bad attitude.
Walking joke bad guys.

He couldn't write a proper Star Lord or a proper Moon Knight. And he was the guy who made Hawkeye and edgelord in the actual Marvel 616. So that's the guy.

>He only know how to write three kinds of characters.
>Nevious, snarky generic teens.
>Drama queens with a bad attitude.
>Walking joke bad guys.
That's pretty much Scott Lobdell to a T.

It's just for six issues. Maybe his work will look better than usual.

The old trick of "let's see how it all rolls". I can see it being a mini, then, if it somehow works well, shifting to an ongoing.

Good.

Booth literately is the only reason we are getting the mini, he's been begging/bugging every single person that works at DC for years and Lobdell used a Harras favor

None of the current DC execs are jewish.

No, no one is saying that. Stop being so overdramatic. You don't like his writing. Other people like it enough. Deal with it.

I'm sorry, my inner /pol/tard came out. I'm just so tired of Wally being treated this way.

he's better than Tomasi and Tynion at least

No he ain't.

He literally took this idea from a Yea Forums thread 6 months ago but I don’t mind one bit. HYPE

Than Tynion, yeah, probably but not for much. Tomasi is still better.

As long as if works and it's a good read, I don't mind where he took the idea from. Yea Forums holds no rights. When we post our stuff here, we know what can happen.

link it please

reveal him being an unrelated character so the original could come back?

Based

Tomasi sucks mad dick, Detective Comics is terrible

Dc was reborn post flashpoint.

I don't doubt it. I'm just saying he's more skilled and usually a better writer. I read his Superman and Supersons, and read his Batman. I dislike how he takes in some themes, but he's a fine writer overall.

>Booth literately is the only reason we are getting the mini, he's been begging/bugging every single person that works at DC for years and Lobdell used a Harras favor
hwy these 90s hacks are still workin gon DC?

>It's on the records that Scott Lobdell sexually harass co-workers and fans.
he has blackmail on Harras

Doc art is so good. Why do you troll so much didio

And you both know this because...?

Idc. He has a book. And some Space Monster is why he killed those people.

Wally always been overcoming stuff.

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>implying it wasn't possession by the consciousness of zoom projected from inside the reverse speed force.

RHATO rebirth made me like Jason Todd, but after they broke up the trinity I stopped reading.

I mean I'm not happy but not surprised by Booth. Guy loves Wally and probably fucking begged for this book. But Lobdell? Why. Just why.

The annual was pretty good.

Tomasi sometimes just starts these really dumb arcs and doesn't manage to jump off them or end them quickly enough (see also the current Supersons mini which was entirely focused on a mediocre arc).

>Brett Booth
The fucking FUGINAUTS from Sideways?? Blaming the fucking cosmos? Fuck, I hate this shit already

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so it's a miniseries but Lobdell wants it to be longer
best case is its a hit, extended and DexterSoy reunites with Scott and taken off Outsiders where he's wasted

DC really does hate Wally.

I always kind of thought the vitriol was a little overblown but first King and now Lobdell? That's burial material right there.

I liked the Wally cross over he did a lot.

Lobdell fucking blows

>lobdell
>booth
>not ignoring HIC

fucking monkey paw

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No matter what it's going to be better than current Flash.

But Lobell wrote pic related which was the best Flash Story this decade.

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Lobell will do whatever he can to turn it around. I'm not saying he's the best writer but he as shown that he wants Wally to be happy and get a good ending. I fully expect by the end that Wally will have his kids and Wife back or at the least his wife back and maybe a team up with Bart.

Not a high bar, user.

Tells you what DC thinks of Wally to stuck Lobdell on the book. He is the guy that DC dumps on things they don't really care about.

People made the same excuses for Lobdell when he was dumped on Ric Grayson. It was awful. I've never seen such a consistently bad writer have so many defenders.

Aw hell, Lobdell sucks and Booth can't draw. Why is this happening?

People love him because he made Jason/Artemis a thing...even though he's also DC's biggest yes-man who happily chucked her off the book the moment editorial asked him to.

retaliation for Wally fans harassing DC employees

I will bomb DC hq one day. Mark my words, american.

Because rebirthfags loved Lobdell. You deserve this.

The only people who loved Lobdell are fans of Red Hood and the Outlaws. Which he somehow managed to write decently.

I'm going to severley go against the grain and say that I'm cautiously excited. Lobdell may not be the greatest, but when he's working on something he enjoys it is clear that he has a love for the medium. Just look at his Red Hood Rebirth Run and some of the earlier issues for Wildcats Vol. 2.

Unreleated to everything though, how do people feel about Wally's new Flash costume? At first I was not on board but the more I saw it the more accepting I became.

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Does anyone know if editorial will be breathing down his neck because depending who it is (like in the case of Johns it was great) this is going to go either two ways, fun and entertaining or

>Williamson
Yes, let’s have the guy who continues to keep the Flash book dogshit. Great idea, user.

I'll accept him being manipulated by Dr Manhattan. Would make more sense.

Probably not, they Hank Pyned his ass. Now all the people will ever think about is the deaths he has caused like how Hank Pyn will forever be remembered as the wife beater (even though it wasn't ever suppose to be that way). Hank never recovered I doubt Wally ever will.

They will have to pull a Hal Jordan to salvage him

Whatever road he takes it has to lead back to jail. He committed crime plain and Simple and needs to serve his time

Didio making me like Wally again.

He needs to be sent to jail. He needs to serve his time.

It wasn’t. King wanted Tim to become Nightwing while Dick recovered.

So does Harley Quinn,but DC is determined to push her as an anti hero and use the LOL random card to justify everything she did.

If DC wants to extend the same courtesy to Wally,I'll accept it because what happened to him was blatant character assassination.

Imo, all they need to do, said this earlier too, is to make it all a manipulation Dr Manhattan. It synergize well with DDC comic and would more sense than what we are given anyway

Hal didn't get jail time.

Oh please he just shoved some teeth down a corpses throat for convoluted reasons. It's stupid. But no anywhere near the level of hitting your wife. The Hank Pym stuff sticks because of its simplicity and realism. Guy with mental problem beats his wife; they just happen to be superheroes. With wally you have to explain a convoluted series of events involving a random burst of speed force energy, Wally deciding to try to commit suicide while framing two other people for the accident mutually exclusively for no logical reason. It's not the same thing at all.

Yeah don't give Wally a book after he comes back in Rebirth and everybody is hyped for him. Give him a book after he was ruined in HiC. Good job DC

Oh look. He's going off into space to return to his home planet.

They are not Wally though. Dude is, was a hero, and needs to serve his time. Otherwise he would seem like a massive hypocrite during Barry's trial for killing Thawn lol.

But for real, a pardon from the government after whatever "redemption" he does I'd be ok. But that would be a copout in my eyes, he would feel like he needed to serve out his time and hope Scott will reject a pardon

He died in a heroic sacrifice and had to play host to the spectre.

>Wally West gets Lobdell
Oh boy. I almost feel sorry for the Wallyfags after all they've been through. But they're stupid enough to keep reading DC, so it's only their fault.

It's going to stick. He killed people, accident it may be, but he did it. It will always be over his head now, writers would be fucking stupid not to bring it up. It will be there always like a fucking fat cloud

He's gonna hit 100 issues before Tom King though.

I like Wally but enjoy sering his fans suffer.

Hal didn't do anything wrong. Aliens aren't people. Its okay for heroes to kill them.

At worst it would involuntary manslaughter, depending how much agency Wally had in the explosion. And the way DC reboots it's continuity it'll be thrown out sooner or later. It'll end up in the garbage bin like Rise of Arsenal. HIC is absolutely reviled And sooner or later real wally fans will seize power.

Of course you don't care you Barryfag. You wan't to see Wally ruined so he doesn't age and threaten your precious saint.

Hey Bar torr is going to come back as a villain for Wally. Wally killed his girlfriend.

Barryfag? That's more insulting than an actually insult.

But Wally is ruined just like all the speedsters in the DC thanks to King. Walking fucking time bombs now, every writer would have to acknowledge it.

Rise of Arsenal didn't go into the garbage bin until they rebooted the universe.

He also painted the walls in their blood. Which is grade a crazed psycho stuff.

He also probably did a lot of other corpse mutilation to disguise their murders like he did with Commander Steel. He had to make EVERYONE look like Booster/Harley killed them. So everyone got a silly clown death or a blaster through the chest or something.

Has Lobdell ever in his life given an opinion about Wally? I know Booth has but Booth also has a lot of dumbshit opinions about The Flash like hating The Rogues and whatnot.

Wonder if Scott will try to explain that shit about the framing thing better that fucking king. Hope he doesn't just say he was crazy.

Scarlet plus crimsom plus silver. It calls to his Kid Flash costume, his Flash costume and Walter's costume. I like it, but in the end, it depends on who draws it.

Are you guys excited for his return? He is going to be asking what happened to Solstice.

he likes legacy characters and red costumes

Heh, and now we will have whoever is writing Jason Todd writing Wally West, the man who killed Roy Haper, Jason's bet friend.

I wonder if we will get some kind of confrontation, if the book lasts long enough to get back to Earth under Lobdells hand.

I really love the costume and how much it distinguishes him as an individual.

>yfw Lobdell doesn't want to write Wally and was forced by Harass or Didio to write Wally or have had Bunker killed off in Heroes in Crisis
Rich was right, but for the wrong reasons.

My man.

One of the biggest surprises was not going full mask with his new costume. Definitely a call back to his Kid-Flash costume as well as just making him look slightly more approachable.
>Part of the reason I love domino masks.

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>Lobdell was the only straight person...
>After the panel, when he was introduced to her husband...
Lmao

She was Bi, maybe. Who cares.

I never realized Lobdell was so based. I will now buy his book.

Yea Forums is so chucked I can’t tell if you are a baiting or not

I had a real hard time getting used to the costume before the art change on Titans happened

As soon as someone other than Booth started drawing it I thought it was A+, its was like seeing the Bluewing Nightwing outfit for the first time

Anyone in the mood for me to Story time (IMO) Wally's best stories? I got a huge folder and would love to do it if anyone cared.

>Booth literately is the only reason we are getting the mini, he's been begging/bugging every single person that works at DC for years

Oldfag here, I worked with Booth at a comic shop in the early 90's and can confirm Wally-Flash is his fave DC character.

It definitely feels like this since he has done the art for basically every Wally run since he came back.

Hell yes, I could use it at this point

That's a fucking good description. I wasn't on completely sold on the costume until I saw Mann draw it, afterwards it looks strangely appropriate.

Williamson makes comic kino, I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Ok. Starting

Oh for fuck sake, does Rapmund have an exclusive with doing art on Wally projects?!?!

They are literally setting this book up to fail, probably so DC can say that Wally sells worse than Barry

Meant to say Booth, although It seems like the two go hand in hand

share stories please

What's wrong with Booth?

His artwork tends to be a mess (maybe it’s the colorist on this one), his characters tend to always look emaciated, and he has a weird obsession with constantly adding Pizza Fish into all his comics

Not much to say, he was a pretty quiet kid & just wanted to be a comic book artist. He had already designed Backlash (he was originally a vampire posing as a hero) and then he got hired by Jim Lee after he sent in some samples and was put to work right away and that was that.