Hey look... I know you're sad. But I'm here to let you know, that I'm alright. I'm just glad that I'll be missed. It does make this a lot easier on me.
But like I said, I'm okay. I've lived a long life. I've done lots of stuff, alright? I been places you could only dream of. Seen wonderous things. Maybe I even changed one or two things for the better...
Sigh, I think me and the commision kind of made a mess of things. So it's only natural I accept... my punishment. It's better this way, y'know? I'm better off this way...
See ya around. Think of me from time time, would ya?
The other's don't know what's happening. And I don't really have the heart to tell them. So I'll make this brief:
I don't know why you're doing it, but I understand. Ultimately we're just tools anyway. Time to put us away, huh?
I just hope we were useful to you. That's all we ever wanted.
I just wish you could have attended one of our parties. I would have made you the guest of honor, you know. You'd see how much fun we have in here. Every day's another party.
So it's been a good life. Really it has.
I've got to go now. I'm giving our friends one last party before we... you know... go. But it's the best darn party they could have ever hoped for.
Warning: weapons grade autism within the spoiler I headcanon that Star only destroyed the realm which allows for magic to be tapped by sentient users, and thus, magic is (for) now a natural phenomenon like the weather. Meanwhile, this means the MCH is going to be reincarnated as 'less magical' analogues races, like Hekapoo and Omnitraxus as demons, Glosseryck as possibly a human, and... okay, i'm lost on the last dude.
The only issue about what Star's done is that SOMEONE is going to figure out how to start harnessing magic again. and there will inevitably be problems.
Elijah King
That one was killed by the evil unicorn before Star ended magic.
Anthony Sullivan
If we all comment on this video to expose Star for genocide and the ending for being terrible, we can turn the normies against this ending and the people who made it. youtube.com/watch?v=MT5ojPHj1YY
I honestly thought that's what they were going for. Like everybody was gonna get to use do that now. But I really think they closed the door on stuff like that.
I think it's just GONE.
Ryan Price
>Looking through the comments >Dawww they're together! >Conveniently forgetting that Star had just committed genocide
Now I understand why Guts can care less about bystanders.
Eh, the thing that gives me hope is that there's clearly a lot of shit going on in the merged world that shows magic CAN'T BE ALL GONE. Ponyhead, giant spiders, A FLYING CASTLE. None of those things could exist without magic to basically support them.
So magic is clearly still around, it's probably just not consciously harnessable to power active spells and such.
I think part of the issue comes from Nefcy PROBABLY wanting to 'scale down' the ending by focusing on Starco when she had introduced a world changing event (like the Chrono Crusade manga or Busou Renkin's ending) and possibly wanted the fans to imagine what comes next. (Marco and Star's meeting actually reminded me a bit of the ending to Your Name, I swear, all they would have needed is to have experienced a memory wipe)
She, unfortunately, missed several key steps.
And yes, I know I'm dropping a lot of weeb terminology, but given Star Vs.'s inspiration, it feels likely.
She had to be like, eons old. anyway magic came back at the end.
Angel Carter
LOL, it literally did not.
Aiden Clark
Magic didn't come back you idiot, watch the episode.
Joshua Ross
There aren't enough heavy concrete bricks in the world
Easton Powell
What?
Caleb Phillips
You watch the episode. What, you think that big explosion of colorful light was electricity? That unicorn at the end was just cosplaying? >Fuck everyone who just wants to be friends!
Luis Torres
>"I learned a few things about myself." and right after said that things couldn't work beetwen them, implying that she is full lesbian.
Anthony Watson
Had this happened I would have been fine with it. Like when the worlds collided we saw Hikapoo and spider and the unicorns and whoever else just running around looking confused like "WTF am I alive?" It still would have been a shitty ending, but I wouldn't have HATED it. At least I could have headcannoned a few things and been happy.
But it very clearly showed the commision died. So Hikapoo died too. ANd if they died magic died and if magic died EVERYBODY died.
Adam Long
>That unicorn at the end was just cosplaying? It was first born soul going to afterlife just like the first unicorn did after Toffe made her destroy the wand.
Also the tapestry says that she destroy magic not fix it, the portal was the magic last moments.
Joshua Lee
I HATE IT WHEN THEY THINK IT'S CUTE TO BE BI! BUT IN REALITY, THEY ARE FUCKING FAKERS! PLAYING WITH YOUR EMOTIONS!
Ayden Ramirez
>Faggot in denial. Be a man and accept the fucked up ending user!!
Juan Johnson
Like... do you think only you could have this figured out? Everybody else is wrong and only you saw the true ending for what it was? You're reaching user. Shit happened. The made it cannon that all the characters literally died.
I mean, they showed their lifeless corpses for fucks sake. What else do you need?
But judging by the rest of Yea Forums... People are not accepting this.
Josiah Perez
It's a shitty ending. Unnatural, unsatisfying, uncathargic, and just plane out of place. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Dylan Gutierrez
>None of those things could exist without magic to basically support them.
Anything is possible through the power of writers not giving a shit.
Luis Ramirez
Admit it though, when the two of them are running for the portal you WANT them to beat the odds somehow. That music was solid. I'm not saying that the merge was a good idea but that bit right before had more emotional intensity than anything that season.
Parker Lee
Hi, we're Star's cheek marks. Just a reminder we're gone now too.
i always had the feeling magic have many sources , is the only explaantion i can see for Tom and ponyhead still existing.
Jaxson Adams
Shame their friendship was completely dropped after season 2. He didn't have the power of waifufag autism behind him for that to stay relevant like Heckapoo and Marco
Brandon Rodriguez
Die for sins. Die for... wanting to save... humans from a monster that LITERALLY ate humans. But you know he was good now! The evil queen said so...
Hudson Perry
that doesnt imply anything, numbskull.
Ryder Long
Ponyheads are like demons a complete different species.
Jack Collins
Thank God you died you piece of shit.
Samuel Davis
this is the worst ending they could've possibly come up with
Daniel Diaz
I would say shit tier quality autism.
Jayden Cox
Does that mean she's human now?
James Carter
Yup, with all the sexual enticities that entails.
John Green
Va's opinion don't count, they only give their voices.
Jace Howard
She said she learned about herself and then something like they just weren't a good fit. Obvious subtext is BECAUSE I REALIZED I LIKE GIRLS.. NOT BOYS! Which makes no sense and undermines their whole relationship which was a big part of the show. But hey. Cotugnos gonna cotug.
Why did they create Talon when all of his roles could've been replaced by Rhombulus? I'm pretty sure they even had the same VA
Grayson Davis
Many more terabytes of porn will be commissioned to avenge it. S**rco is shit and belongs in the garbage can.
Bentley Foster
Because Hekapoo was dating Talon and Rhombulus is her brother
Aaron Reed
>and Rhombulus is her brother They're kind of like the royal family, is that really an issue?
Jose White
>Which makes no sense and undermines their whole relationship which was a big part of the show No, Marco's crush on her was a big part of the show. When he finally asked her out they mostly just hung out as friends, it was barely even a romantic relationship. There's no contradiction in her getting into a relationship with a girl and realizing she prefers that.
This is what infuriates me most about the ending. The commision was protryed as being bad guys. Glabgore literally ATE people. Like, what the fuck? I don't care about apologies. He ATE people.
What is wrong with Star that she thinks this can be forgiven. DId she forgive Toffee? He didn't fucking EAT people.
Owen Campbell
>When one of the storyboarders waifus Eclipsa so you become the bad guy with no real justification or background.
Ryan Reed
that was 300 years ago, no one cares
Jonathan Jones
yea, that is weird
Alexander Jackson
Seasons 3 & 4 are non-canon
Josiah Clark
Hikapoo cared, because she was THERE. That's why she had to stop him. Nobody else knew about how bad he truly was. You know, what with the EATING PEOPLE.
Ryan Gonzalez
Love is what matter user. No matter how many people you kill or get killed as long as you are with the one you love. Globgor was forgiven the moment he put Meteora inside Eclipsa.
Jacob Jackson
Give me a rubdown of the finale, how did it all end?
Jason Ramirez
So was the MHC dethroning Eclipsa/giving away Meteora
Nicholas Ramirez
they deserved to die for being in the way of true love
Austin Gomez
That's one of the many dangling plot threads, Eclipsa said "The truth is a little more complex than that, but... yes, he did." but we never hear the full story. Shastacan was probably trying to kill him at the time, and I think that's the only actual confirmed instance of him eating someone.
Another dangling plot thread from that episode: Eclipsa's looking for a piece of the spell book to restore it, Star has one but doesn't tell her. And then...nothing.
Christian Adams
She read Star's mind to find out about the piece of the book, really fucking shitty of her Also Globy eating Shasta was just a good reason to crystallize him? I don't think a monster can be punished for simply fucking a queen
Connor Martin
>Star is visibly done with Eclipsa and creates the coronation to force Eclipsa to actually give a shit about her job as a queen >Next episode all of that is brushed aside because no one can not like the storyboarder's waifu.
Globgor himself said he liked to eat miners in Monster and the Queen.
Apparently he stopped because Eclipsa asked him to, which doesn't make them any more likable. Fuck that entire selfish family.
Brayden Murphy
>She is now happy with a lover who actualy cares about her and is not obsessed with meat blankets. We don't know anything about that black girl, as far as we know they may scissor each other on top of a meat blanket as a way for Jackie to cope with the fact that Marco cared more for a blanket than her.
Christopher Price
Taking into account everybody in Mewni has commited criminal acts and that assassination is a legal occupation, Globgor actualy has proven to be better for being willing to stay crystalized if society says so.
He was judged by Mewni and the other kingdoms representatives and chosen king. The kingdom inmediately improved (as stated for Star) and he fought to defend his subjects... almost dying in the process.
Keep on trying to play contrarian dude, you already lost.
mewman eaters just eat mewmans, that's how Globgor got raised but I still don't get why they never brought that up with shastacan again, there could have been a hundred reasons for Globgor to eat him that would have made it a justified decision but no let's just never mention it again. To me Globgor's just a terrible father that rather unleashed his vorelust once again instead of looking for his daughter and no one can tell me otherwise
Cameron Ross
DON'T TALK TO MY DEAD WAIFU!
Eli King
well I'm dumb, I completely forgot that episode somehow.
Still, that was the era of the Solarian warriors, it was full-on war at that point.
Eli Peterson
We don't know how their conversation went, maybe Shastacan lied and claimed Meteora was dead, as he was sure Globgor wouldn't attack him because of what he read about him in Eclipsa's chapter. Then he found out about her being alive when the MHC attacked the temple but it was too late.
After the show he pulled during the coronation, putting his family before his freedom he can't be a bad father. This has been the main point of River's friendship with him after all.
>The crew cares more about some one-off girlfriend character with Jackie to give them a "happy ending" than any of the fucking magical characters we've come to grow and love
It does seem oddly sad to give the spells so much focus and personality just to give them the ax off-screen. I wonder if there was originally a plan to do more with them in the climax.
Nathan Nelson
there should be a sequel series where a group of surviving magic people hunt down and kill star
So why imprison Rhombulus? He literally did nothing wrong.
Asher Ward
Considering there's alternate realities and the show has done a Bill Cypher reference, there is definitely a timeline where Marco goes for H-poo and starts a family of five under six minutes.
>the show has done a Bill Cypher reference Come again?
Wyatt Wright
>When the wand was first destroyed all the spells survived So did Glossaryck and the MHC, because the wand isn't "the magic", it's just a tool to help utilize it. The wand's not broken this time, it's gone.
>If Meteora restores magic in the future She'd have to somehow ascend to Glossaryck-level godhood to recreate magic. It's not happening.
Angel Evans
is hekapoo even a magical being? we were shown the remains of the other 2 but not her, for all we know she could still be at the tavern. Also was glossyaryk even a magical being? the only thing we were shown that suggested he died was him staying in the magic dimmension, which may or may not have even destroyed
Michael Wright
Imagine being so mad about Trump winning the election that you start shoving weird political propaganda into the cartoons and TV shows you make to the point where it destroys any attempt at storytelling and pisses off your audience.
He released someone who he thought was going to kill thousands of innocent people in the audience just to prove an unnecesary point.
Of course the head of such an act of terrorism would be imprisoned; thing is he wasn't the head, but Moon. Moon put all those citizens in danger, she was the one who gave an army to a mentaly unstable bitch with the worst excuse ever, put a whole kingdom in jeopardy and almost had the heirs of 3 allied kingdoms assassinated.
But she gets away with everything because she is lucky Eclipsa is the most forgiving person in the whole universe. Meanwhile, her minions pay the prize.
Star is the kind of person who would watch someone get bludgeoned to death with a hammer and think hammers are evil and all of them should be destroyed.
Or y'know, all guns are evil and should be destroyed, which I imagine is the metaphor they were going for in the show.
Adam Bell
Jackie pulled a >It's ok Marco, you should dump me and run off to be with that girl you've been making googly eyes at our entire relationship. I don't matter. Then later with Hekapoo >Hey Marco, you should totally murder me and my family. I don't matter Thank goodness no one minds being thrown to the wayside by the heroes or else they might look bad.
Do you think they'll give Hekapoo a pity girlfriend?
Jonathan Lewis
>Meanwhile, her minions pay the prize. Just like Mina getting yucked by Solaria.
Queens cause all this shit yet it's always the henchmen who take the fall.
David Scott
And the message would fall flat on its face when you realize the consequences.
Such as guaranteeing that monsters would reign supreme in less than a generation due to them being bigger and stronger than the average Mewman.
Dylan Roberts
Thats why they merged the worlds, now they have access to the great equalizer.
Like, instead of destroying the magic how about actually teach the people using the magic how to not fuck up royally?
I mean Star had at her fingertips a tool that can basically do whatever she wants it to. And instead of searching for a creative solution she just went "Fuck it" and destroyed the whole thing.
Reminder Eclipsa was the one who came with the creative solution a week ago, but the script decided for Heekapoo to be suddenly suicidal, so she would agree with Star's plan and not the Queen's.
If somebody could be better dead was Doop Doop, the poor bastard can finally rest.
Benjamin Bennett
Never listen to Yea Forums, this board told me they wouldn't go dindu nuffin with the monsters and look what happened season 4.
Jose Howard
He'd be the one character to survive out of tragic irony.
Matthew Ramirez
You mean someone on this board told you that and you ignored anyone who said otherwise.
Adrian Rogers
I legitimately like the unicorn. The way they showed her dying while fighting a plot point they didn't bother to explain. Shit. I'd rather have her just magicked away.
If there is a next season, it better be Doop Doop realising the cruelty of these mortal beings and empowering himself to rise up and avenge his kind on their careless masters
Wasn't this the confirmed last season or is there actual hope?
Connor Rogers
Would you want there to be another season? Really?
Noah Cook
magic is gone but monsters still have super powers, nothing can go wrong there
Adrian Brown
>Build up a big political plot of Mina, Moon, Eclipsa, and Star's views on race and the future of Mewni. >Destroy it by having Star decide out of nowhere she hates magic, proceed to end countless innocent lives, and leave Mewni STILL on the brink of race war.
That last point especially, this is the definition of Pyrrhic victory. Mina will be back, because NOTHING was done to stop the overearching problems.
Michael Sanders
this
Anthony Cooper
I think of a bunch of different ways to retcon what happened that'll be in the show's tone.
Star and Marco realize "oops, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to combine the worlds." They have to get magic back. They find a way into the magic realm. There's Glossarick just chilling with Hikapoo. he's nonchalant about it "I didn't say we'd die. What kind of monster did you think I was" Yada Yada berries. Worlds separate. Marco and Star get a real ending. Tom's still being forgotten and cucked in the background crying.
Ayden Wilson
didnt Mina lost her powers when the magic was gone? thou would probably be able to convince the humans to blow up the monsters
Charles Jenkins
the fact that I read it in her cunt voice angers me more than her survival of genocide hands clan
Sebastian Torres
Did the racial tension fade into the ether with the magic? Because if not Mina and her followers will be back with guns and shit. Star solved nothing.
Austin Martin
Except now she has the backing of a world with fuckign GUNS.
Gabriel Collins
We must kill all the Mewnigers, Liggers, Monsters and whatever other abominations they brought to Earth. Earth is for humans and I'll be dammed if some autistic teenager is going to win because she want's to love some Mexican.
Anyone know if the Jelly Janna story ever got a complete ending?
Anthony Johnson
mewmans can hide, but everyone else is fucked. Also, now the Butterflies live on the streets, Star and Moon have to sell their bodies to make ends meet while River hunt squirrels.
>Monster temple still stands and so does Butterfly castle. until the army moves in to investigate this invading territory, stop the giant monster rampaging and the displaced mewmans causing havoc after they realize they have no where to place to plant, no way to make money and are stuck forever in a place they dont understand
Leo Nguyen
after the great cleaving the Butterflies were no longer a line of queens, from that day onward the Butterflies began a long line of prostitutes,
Yeah, it's explicitly stated Glossy created her along with the others. Plus there's the whole things where she even said she'd die...
They didn't show her because they realized it would have been actually too traumatic to have such a death.Plus... you know. What would she have left behind? The cum stains from her last gangbang?
Grayson Barnes
You know, I remember a time when creative people tried to create the best work possible, regardless of the "statement" the work made. People used to have to interpret something and this could lead to discussion as peoples' interpretations would naturally differ based on their viewpoint and life experiences. Now it's like the artists want a pat on the head for thinking the right way instead of sticking to artistic integrity.
Michael Bell
I'm so fucking sad this show is over, it was the high point of my last year and a bit, sort of, why does life have to be so heartless ? Hold me Yea Forums. Hopefully something as wholesome as this shows up again.
Even if they army decides to check, monsters still have their abilities intact: Poniheads can shoot through their horns, demons can make fire fall from the sky, pidgeons have mechas and massive air control, there's a fucking size-shifter, inmortal lizards, waterfolks controling sea access...
Sorry user, it's not going to be that easy. Not to mention they never stopped Star from killing police-officers, minors, etc... Mewmans are safe for now.
I feel you bro. Honestly, as fucked up as it sounds, new eps each Sunday kept me going.
Christopher Gomez
Star was just the local stabber, this is a invasion from foreign nation. Immortal Lizards are few even if they decided to help, as for the creatures with powers lets see how they deal with machineguns and missiles, or a bunch of pegeons agains helicopters and jets, they can even fucking poison the rivers if the merfolk become a problem. the smart ones will scatter, mewmans probably can hide, but the ones who chose to stay and fight are fucked
Juan Sanders
I am 100% certain there will be some comics at least. I might even read them.
This show was one of the only shows where I could watch an episode or season through without getting bored in between and look at other things. I'm going to miss it. Especially since Cleaved made an interesting setting with the cleaved together Mewni/Earth.
>expect Marco to fall over in pain and for Star's desicion to destroy the magic because the corrupted magic hurt Marco >Marco is actually a son of Sparda and can get stabbed in the stomach and barely flinch.
user, stop ignoring the motherfucking demons who make fire rain from the sky and summon the dead to fight for them.
The other mewny creatures only have to kill the survivors after the initial demonic blast. After that they steal the weapons and use them themselves to improve the mechas.
>I'm going to miss it. Especially since Cleaved made an interesting setting with the cleaved together Mewni/Earth. Same, I'm expecting a wasteland scenario where the monsters wreck shit and the characters have to survive without magic.
Oliver Howard
>Marco is the son of Sparda Lay off the DMC, will ya? It's odd when he just got up from impalement like nothing... Then again, he manage to throw a half-ton horse with that wound. If that's not nutty enough, he punched through a lizard man, and got thrown to a stone wall, leaving a crack on it... And he was fine.
Aiden Barnes
you think those morons will know how to use weapons? and I want to see they make fire rain when missiles are raining on them
Jackson Cooper
mina was right
Andrew Adams
>you think those morons will know how to use weapons? They're fighting Californians. It's mindless monsters fighting other mindless monsters, the odds are even here.
Jaxson Reed
What missiles? Seahorse's company can access and control any digital device, including the super computers used by the government.
Earthlings will have their own missiles falling on them and the last thing they'll watch will be THE PONYHEAD SHOW!
hehe That's so cute, I didn't know I wanted it until now...and now it's late
Jaxson Thompson
We are having fun, user.
Everybody knows Californians will just accept the invaders and live happily ever after, because it has been shown how incompetent their security forces are... Star has been killing innocent people on Earth since Season 1 and there were no consequences.
most recently actual police officers along with a helicopter
Jacob Ortiz
u ni corn
Jackson Sanders
If they don't fuck with the 405 I'm pretty sure most people in Los Angeles wouldn't give a shit.
Angel Smith
I thought the merge was a neat idea. especially after this entire season has been "oh shit, mewmans are the immigrants after all. the dirty stinking primitives who moved in on the monsters' civilization and shat all over it with their corn and theri magic" now they've actually dragged their homeland physically into mewni, just like insert-third-world-country-here would do if they had the means. It's forcing lefties to examine the immigration crisis from the alternate angle because they made the pretty humans the invaders.
Brody Baker
So whats the limit of the Cleaving? California? Planet Earth?
Cameron Stewart
>Hopefully something as wholesome as this shows up again. Same. I'm hoping Glitch Techs helps fill that void.
It's a fully unleashed Weirdmaggedon, the sheer mass of the dimensions make it impossible to contain only in Cali. Shit's happening in the whole world and the entire universe.
Daniel Sanchez
>Shit's happening in the whole world and the entire universe. Star is a fucking moron, this isn't going to end well.
Rafael and Angie just let them fuck on the living room couch like that? With Mariposa in the house?
Gabriel Watson
>seconds before the Septarsians break down the door
Nicholas Hall
of course
Jackson Thomas
This finale has brought out the worst in me. I’ve been bitter all day and have been spiraling down a depth well of misery. What’s the point if everything now is about literally killing the magic out of everything you love.
I’m honestly considering suicide tonight, I can’t take being both alone, haunted by the opinions of assholes and bullies from my past, and now on top nothing to watch except cartoons that teach me to give up and submit to misery and depression. I don’t want to hurt anymore.
It's been over a day, user. She's still flatlining.
They should really disconnect that machine already.
Jackson Garcia
lel
Austin King
Autism. Do you really think they're going to let a child die on the screen? Plus she did it at will, meaning some sort of mastery.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
cringe
unironically have sex OP
Cameron Sanders
>Jackie broke up with Marco, Tom broke up with Star, but Hekapoo and Janna, as characters that never actually dated Marco yet perpetuated their ships simply by existing, had to die. Hekapoo and Janna were literally cucked to death
Jason Brooks
>cringe posting an 8 hour old thread Time to go back to social media, Noah.
William Martin
Janna already ate off and licked the Marcobowl clean before the finale, so Star got used goods. Lol. And Heka took herself out.
Thomas Diaz
Don't kill yourself because of a shitty show, those are dime a dozen. There's much more to life than this, trust me.
Cameron Ross
There's plenty to enjoy out there user. Don't let one piece of media wreck your entire world-view.
Xavier Parker
I like Hekapoo porn. Thats all i gotta say.
Zachary Howard
There's better media to live for. If you want a love story that backfires horribly due to selfishness, look no further than Devilman. Also demons, tits and gore.
It is after all, one of the key inspirations for Berserk.
>itsajoke shes a master hypnotist, she snapped her fingers. This was one of her tricks, nothing more. I feel like I am become autism having to explain this, like people don't already know it.
Jordan Wilson
no.... oh god, that is what would happen isn't it?
Anthony Campbell
Did... did nobody hear her say literally seconds before: "I know how to stop my heart but only for 60 seconds, RUN!"? Seriously?
David Collins
>Mina and her followers Mina doesn't have followers anymore, barring the court jester. Everyone else realized they couldn't handle killing and left. It's just Mina now, and who's going to listen to a crazy lady without power?
Jackson Rodriguez
>She is bi according to her VA
That's media-talk for gay/lesbian.
Name one bisexual media character who had a genuine lasting relationship with a member of the opposite sex.
Oliver Barnes
Worst girl killed best girl. It's not fair bros...
Jason Nelson
Janna is still alive and waiting for Marco's divorce.
Leo Torres
How big is Mewni is a suddenly relevant question, alongside how far it expanded and in which direction. Did California suddenly gain a new pacific peninsula? Is Mewni a full on planet and therefore just doubled the size of the Earth?
>Name one bisexual media character who had a genuine lasting relationship with a member of the opposite sex. Pink Diamond? Though I guess it doesn't really count since she's genderless.
Marco's annoyed because he's in his refractory period but Star doesn't even know what that means.
Parker Edwards
Whatever helps you cope. I'm drawing really, really spiteful and resentful fanart personally.
Michael Adams
Starcofags won, but at what cost? Was it really worth it in the end? I was a fag hoping for Starco, too. But not like this. Never like this.
Brody Young
If another season is greenlit, they should just go even darker. > An Age of Catastrophe has begun > The Earth's Biosphere is mangled beyond recognition with the introductions of millions of alien ecosystems. Every species struggles to remain competitive and find a niche in this new world, mass extinctions of foreign and domestic lifeforms follow. This planetary ecological disruption has severe knock-on effects for Humanity at large. >The addition of hither-to non-existent planetary bodies shifts the delicate balance of the solar system possibly kicking events into motion that will have apocalyptic implications for life on earth in the future. > Pure magical beings weren't the only creatures to suffer adverse effects from the deletion of magic, they were simply the fastest to deteriorate. Any being with any amount of innate supernatural biology start to waste away, at varying rates depending on how magical they are. > Immediately, innumerable conflicts arise between the extra-dimensional refugees and human societies. Roving monstrous Mewman fauna and opportunistic sapient factions terrorize thousands of populations centers. Ultimately, many Human governments panic in the face of this global shitstorm and implement a sledgehammer approach, outright exterminating the invasive organisms and reinforcing their claim to their sovereign lands by way of force. > Magic no longer exists. There is no way to put this genie back into its bottle. Star and Marco are forced to face the consequences of their actions.
Someone explain to me why killing a whole bunch of innocent creatures is a better alternative to blasting Mina with a Total Annihilation spell. And how you can make that call and still be the good guy.
James Green
The only innocents were the unicorns and they got corrupted to be evil before they died anyway.
Spells aren't lives.
Jose Parker
>Spells aren't lives. Elaborate.
Hudson Cruz
They're spells.
James Perry
With sapience.
Easton Lee
So its the closest thing to a BPRD Hell on Earth adaptation.
But knowing the show, they won't go into that territory. Ever. After all, Star did nothing wrong.
But things aren't always what they seem. Particularly when magic is involved.
Connor Peterson
I mean they're shown as living, and with their own free will and aspirations as well as the ability to reproduce sexually, so wouldn't they be considered living beings?
Zachary Perry
> But knowing the show, they won't go into that territory. Ever. After all, Star did nothing wrong. Of course they won't because the showrunners and cucks with no interesting vision to share, and even if they were, the suits in charge would never let them do something so overt. But a man can dream...
John Allen
>shown
Again, you're buying into the facade the magic presents you with. This is foolishness. Anyone who knows anything about dealing with magic knows not to trust appearances.
All we know for a fact is that they're spells. Spells aren't lives.
Brayden Anderson
How do I know YOU aren't the appearance of sapience? Could I morally extinguish your apparent life based on that possibility?
Adam Gonzalez
>the facade magic presents you with
You are giving this show waaaay too much credit user.
Robert Gomez
Define a life.
Alexander Flores
I'm not magic. But I'm flattered that you apparently think so highly of me, user.
I am just a man, same as you.
Jason King
Oh, there's a proper definition for "life" but I don't know it off the top of my head.
I'm too afraid I'd get it wrong but you can look it up if you want.
>the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death Spells have shown all these things. The fact that they can die at all demonstrates even better that they are life.
Xavier Walker
>shown
Magic can show literally anything.
Michael King
What evidence would be satisfactory to prove spells are life?
Ian Bennett
Jackie (to Marco): You've kissed another girl. Marco (to Jackie): Oh, you're the one to talk!
Ayden Richardson
The same evidence that could be used to prove fictional characters are alive.
I look at it like this, magic is showing you a story. The lives that the spells demonstrate are just a story. Maybe you like that story but it is no more alive than your favorite fictional character.
Jose Campbell
But they lived while no one was watching. There was no one to show a story to. The spells kept up the act even with no audience, because it wasn't an act.
Also, you didn't actually answer.
Logan Stewart
I just realized, would've those puppies remained puppies forever?
Luke Cruz
>Also, you didn't actually answer.
Let's see them live in a non-magical context. That would prove it to me.
Asher Gray
>The same evidence that could be used to prove fictional characters are alive. Maybe they are
Benjamin Hill
Yeah but the spells can interact with the "physical" world (at least so far as star is concerned).
Ayden Morris
>Beings entirely comprised of magic, whose entire existence hinges on the existence of magic. >Nonmagical context
Did you break, user? Are you okay?
Benjamin Taylor
That doesn't make any sense. Let's see a fish live without water. It can't? Must not be life. Magic is just what keeps this life alive, but it doesn't make it any less life.
Dylan Wood
If they're still alive without the story being told then I can accept that these fictional characters are life.
But if they stop when the story ends, they're just characters, user. It's very simple.
Zachary Hill
What story are you even talking about?
Nicholas Adams
So unless the fictional characters in this fictional story can exist outside of that story, they are not considered actual living characters while inside the story?
Like are you confused? am I confused? Did you actually think we were saying that the spells were real people in our physical reality?
Maybe you're just trolling and I'm retarded but you've really got my head spinning here.
Xavier Watson
The story the magic is telling you about the Spider in the Top Hat.
I think of the spells as simulations of living creatures. Of course they show the signs of life but they're just simulations, not actual creatures. Does that sound like an impossibility for the magic?
Liam Allen
Sounds like a forced way to justify killing them to me. In the context of the show there's no one to tell the story to. If you're saying the magic is playing this all out specifically for us, the viewers currently pirating Star vs. the Forces of Evil on their laptops, that's a kindergarten analysis that has no basis in the actual show.
Elijah Gonzalez
>Sounds like a forced way to justify killing them to me.
Not really forced, it's perfectly plausible but that is what it is. And the magic isn't literally telling a story, that was just a metaphor I was using to communicate the idea to you. A better way to say it that hadn't occurred to me until now is that the magic is simulating living creatures to create the spells.
Joseph Martin
>but that is what it is.
I should clarify this because it sounds like I'm asserting that my belief about the magic is confirmed correct but I'm merely affirming that I am doing what you think I'm doing. I'm justifying ending the spells. I'm not doing this for any nefarious purposes or for your reaction. It's just mental exercise for me and I'm enjoying our conversation.
Jeremiah Jenkins
I lost interest after season 3, what was the main fallout for season 4?
Ian Williams
Okay but that's dumb though, if the magic just creates simulations of living things, why do they continue to exist and do things inside of the wand when nobody else is watching? Why do spells that don't actually create a living thing to sumulate, like ouroboros and hypnoslumber, have sapient avatars inside of the wand?
Cooper Mitchell
>plausible Not the same as likely. If someone claims to care about life and is going to end something that really appears to have life, they better make damn sure they exhaust the possibility of it actually being life. The spells showed all the basic signs of life. They interact with the world, eat, sleep, and fuck, even when no one's watching. All of this is evidence of life.
On the flip side, there's no real evidence that they AREN'T life except for the vague understanding that magic is weird and often does weird shit. You can take refuge in the "weird shit" element of magic to say these spells aren't alive, but it's flimsy as hell when matched against the evidence that they are. Solid and identifiable indicators of life vs the unsupported possibility of it all being an elaborate simulation of some kind. You would have to have already made up your mind that spells aren't alive to lean into the latter over the former. The evidence of life is just stronger in every way. The simulation idea relies entirely on assumptions to fill in the gaps. The idea of spells being life is supported by simple observation.
tl;dr Star is a mass murderer
Nicholas Hill
The name of the soundtrack when the dimensions were put it together is called "Earth-ni".
Ugh, star with no cheekmarks is absolutely cursed, I don't care how canon it is.
Michael Brown
>the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death Some definitions also require metabolism, hence why viruses are not considered alive yet are able to be killed.
Hunter Lopez
Political messages have been a part of literature for generations. The Hunchback of Notre Dame was Dumas flipping off the Catholic Church.
But for you Trump-fags, it's always all about you.
Jace Diaz
Fuck back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard
Parker Cox
Which is funny, because the other three look good without them.
> Her last moment with Marco was give a last slap on his head In a way, she said goodbye the the only person she cared enough. Sad.
Asher Mitchell
this ending was SO BAD it made some people consider suicide, how do other shows even compete?
Nathan Howard
Silver lining: cute things like this can still happen.
Bentley White
I honestly did not knew the show was axed, so I expected them to reach it, with Star ending being stuck on earth and Marco on Mewni till next season.
Jacob Thompson
There were so many better things they could have done.
Samuel Phillips
the Mewmans were originally humans, on account of what Marco found in the taco cave, so she's now *completely* human but was kind of always human.
Ryder Perez
So close, yet never close enough. That's why Janna killed herself. She realized that was as close as she's ever gonna get.
Alexander Reed
>You will never get a spin-off in which Hekapoo retreats to her own dimension for a few hundred years of adventuring before the end.
Caleb Watson
So wait. IS this the last season? Like theres no hope for renewal or just slim hope?
Joseph Myers
last season. also there are no comics or another book planned, that was it
Eli Hall
Hope it involves Earth militaries punishing the filthy invaders.
Luke Wood
Seems pretty final. You can kinda tell that there might have been plans for Star to spend a season trying to restore magic and return to Earth, but the last few minutes of the episode placated that concern.
Dominic Bell
I forgot he had a son! What the hell Nefcy?! That’s fuckin’ dark!
Jack Gray
Size shifting, say hello to guns and missiles.
Bentley Johnson
He's not real and neither is his son. He's basically the same thing as a video game NPC is in our world. All Star did was turn off the game.
Charles Jackson
Tits too big.
Tyler Butler
>Cheek marks At least now we’ll know which fanart is meant to take place after the series finale.
Jace Campbell
I’d kill for a post-Earth/Mewni merger fanfic about humanity’s war with the inter-dimensional invaders. Hopefully with a storyline about Star and Marco understanding the suffering their “love” caused.
Sebastian Richardson
This is the Saddest and most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my entire fucking life. [Spoiler] I Want to see More [/spoiler
>Lekmet gave his life to save Moon >In return she threw his family under the bus and helped murder them, despite directing them in their crimes in the first place The Queens suck
at least they didn't die alone though I'm sad H-Poo didn't want to die with them
Ian Gonzalez
No. If anything it would be Omnitraxus and that would be by virtue of him not having been that fleshed out as a character. Rhombulus on the other snakehand did not deserve such treatment.
David Parker
they deserved better
Grayson Butler
The one who had it real sad besides Rhombulus would have been Reynaldo. That poor girafe died alone.
Eli Foster
poor Reynaldo had absolutely no idea what's going on
looking back Omni seemed to be the nicest of the three, he told Eclipsa about the baby switching and wanted Festivia to make peace between mewmans and monsters Rhombulus is a hothead and Hekapoo can't do anything wrong because muh female body even though she's the worst
Samuel Rivera
She'd rather die surrounded by friends. Though I have this headcanon in which, after Moon and Eclipsa left, she went to visit Reynaldo.
She didn't say a word about Star's plan of what was going to happen, simply lied about wanted to guess some of his riddles.
"My sister's back From drinking in a hut I'll open my arms Hoping for a...?"
Heekapoo then solves it by giving him a HUG and they both fade.
>thought they were gonna bring lekmet back somehow in the later seasons >never did >his sacrifice was in vain because they ended up destroying the magic anyways
Owen Carter
>tfw noone to instantly and painlessly kill me Must be nice. >I had a feeling we were doing more harm than good Whatever you say
Benjamin Jenkins
>Hekapoo can't do anything wrong because muh female body even though she's the worst
She tingled Marco's dingle. That's not enough to save her life but she gets some agency in choosing her own death.
Christopher Gutierrez
Mariposa and Meteora will tingle it in her memory.
I would've forgiven this show if it killed her. but it couldn't even give us that.
Justin Murphy
>I wonder if there was originally a plan to do more with them in the climax. honestly with how poorly the plot has been handled this season I'm not sure anything went according to plan besides inevitable starco
Dominic Campbell
I hate America.
Gabriel Perry
They all had their redeaming traits and humanising moments.
Honestly if their fall from grace had recieved focus and played out dramatically, it could have worked and added a bit of tragedy in Star having to put down her former allies.
But they get relegated to the sidelines and reduced to bit, cardboard cutout villains, then murdered off screen.
Bentley Jones
>I mean, they showed their lifeless corpses >But it very clearly showed the commision died. So Hikapoo died too. of course the Commission in Mewni died but Heck was in the other end of the multiverse.
Ayden Fisher
This shows likes to kill innocent people, but at least he didn't because of some retarded teenager
>red haired babe gets killed blond girl this vendetta against redheads needs to stop.
Julian Kelly
You never got to grow, you just remained the same snakehanded idiot the whole time. I loved your black-and-white morality. I loved what you wanted to be, but Nefcy just wanted you to be a dumb racist. I never thought you were a dumb racist. >and there's nothing wrong with racism
Christopher Barnes
>You never got to grow, you just remained the same snakehanded idiot the whole time.
He's hundreds if not thousands of years old. He's probably done all the growing that he's capable of.
Dominic Morris
HE GAVE HER HIS FUCKING NIPPLE CRYSTAL HE GAVE HER HIS FAVORITE TROPHY HE GAVE IT ALL TO HER AND SHE TOOK IT FOR GRANTED HE WAS A SAINT
Asher Hall
Mina said herself, you can't kill an idea >Earth and Mewnie, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Earth plus Mewnie, is about to be fuckin' rocked.
Jason Williams
He was a piece of shit who deserved to suffer.
Jeremiah Smith
Mina just needs to get a bunch of guns now and go school shooter on Star and Marco.
Brayden Lopez
Please, I'm begging you. Do not post pictures of ponyhead... >I read it all in her voice
Jace Ward
I mean character development, dipshit H-poo and Glossaryck are fucking ancient too but they "develop" if only a little bit Also this is a fucking CHILDREN'S CARTOON so as a concept he has plenty of room to grow and has probably been an idea for 5 years tops >I refuse to believe that Rhombulus would never ever become a good character and would always be the same idiot if they didn't kill him off like they did. >He didn't do anything wrong
Lekmet was not a asshole like Rhumbulus , Omini and Heka. i strong believe the goat was the one keeping the MHC on line avoiding them to do retard stuff like helping Mina.
Nolan Miller
>Mewni used to be great but it's not anymore >Mewni for Mewmans >We're too busy building a wall >monsters=POC >spells=guns Truly not only a beatufil story but a commentary on our society as well...
Sebastian Garcia
her universe isn't very magical in the first place.
Cameron Cook
The hair is a biological ability.
Nolan Howard
>magic dimension altering hair is biological Ok, if you say so.
I'm glad Hekapoo is dead. She was always a cunt and she deserved it. I was sure that she was going to be spared for being a "strong woman". Mah nigga Rhombulus was screwed though
Blake Brooks
>wow everyone look at my cool contrary opinion, am I special yet
Hudson Cruz
Resolution? Half the characters fucking died! Needlessly. Offscreen. It left off on a giant cliffhanger where worlds that should never be combined collided. It was already shown Mewmans can't live without magic. How will they fare now? What's gonna happen with Nina? Globgor? Is Doop Doop still suffering, having ironically survived somehow?
The ending is a trainwreck. There's a difference between an open ending and no ending.
Ian Diaz
So what you're saying is... "stop liking what I didn't like?"
Evan Foster
I can't let this thread die. When it's gone. So is she.
she will live on in our hearts and fapping sessions
Jose Williams
I just watched the finale and I am confused. Did they just show the magic council as dead? So they left universe's empty skull, the crystal dude's snake arms and crystal head, and the fart flame girl as... What? Did I miss something? What happened to her?
Nolan Lopez
Star destroyed all magic - this included anybody made from magic. The commision is dead, Hekapoo is dead, Glossarick is dead, her spells are dead. Everybody's dead. This isn't speculation, the show specifically says they will die.
Aiden Young
They don't show her dead body but she's just as dead.
Leo Collins
Well it's... certainly a brave writing choice!
Luke Allen
>it's okay to show Rhomb's and Omni's corpses but not Heka's because autistic waifu culture couldn't they consider for at least one second that there are people out there who did like Rhombulus and Omni? damn I was fucking destroyed
Jack Gomez
i just realized glossaryck basically convinced star to murder his son Reynaldo rather than spend time with him.
