The real reason DC hates Wally

The real reason DC hates Wally

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Didio only hates Wallys fans.

Out of context.
He was being mind controlled.

He hates legacy characters in general, especially the ones from the first generation of the TT franchise.

Damn, how many conservatives are there in DC? Hal, Wally, Barry...
And how many Liberals are there?

Supes is def conservative. Grew up in rural Kansas.

Green Arrow is a big liberal.

But isn’t he a millionaire? Why would he be a liberal?

Much as I love Wondy, she's probably on the liberal side of things. Actual liberal though, not crazy leftist that seem to be the norm now.

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I feel like Superman wouldn't be conservative or liberal.

>ITT: conservatives butthurt their favorite heroes have much better morals and social views than they do

It's always been part of his character.
Read comics

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Didio struck first though

>conservatives butthurt
This is redundant, senpai.

He's a socialist who hides his power level by playing nice with the federal government

WAS a millionaire.

Superman can literally see and hear the corruption at all levels of government, including the departments which are specifically purposed to commit metahuman war crimes. This poster is correct, if you think he votes as anything other than a public service you have partisan brainworms.

Wally hasn't been conservative since Waid

>Of the top-level DC characters, the Republicans came out on top, scoring two separate Green Lanterns, as well as Lois Lane and Wonder Woman.
>The Democrats, meanwhile, got the support of Batman and Green Arrow. The Flash and Superman went undeclared throughout the entire series

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Jesus Shit, Ollie. Why don't you just make your own affordable apartments.

>not crazy leftist that seem to be the norm now.
Bullshit and you know it faggot. Bernie Sanders only polls in 30% with the Dems. The norm for Dems is still neoliberal horseshit (and most likely you are too), which is why Trump will win in 2020. And thank God for that.

>Hal doing his job
>gets called a nazi
jeez, Ollie. Simmer down.

What a cuck

Ok, I was just never interested in him.
What?

He hung out with Castro during Invasion, he grew out of being conservative long ago

>Supes is def conservative. Grew up in rural Kansas.

i like the idea of him leaning democratic and lois leaning republican. it makes sense to me based on their backgrounds

Batman and Wonder Woman should switch sides. Lois Lane too unless the DP is supposed to be a conservative paper. Superman would be a liberal but I get why they can't make him choose a side.

Some versions of him are. He had lost his fortune so he stopped being a spoiled brat and became quite a streetwise do-gooder.

Is it because he's an illegal alien?

Too bad we won't have a Republican president post 2028 anyways.
Tick tock.

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refugee that became a big city reporter. sounds democratic

It's pretty funny though, anyone can be angry at the situation, it doesn't matter what political party you side with, the entire thing is just wrong, but holy shit
>Liberal gets into a fit
>Starts accusing people of being Nazis
Life imitates art

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If whites and conservatives are such paragons of manliness and culture why aren't they convincing white women to breed with them?

Because that's called rape.

but isn't Lois a city-bred, metropolition girl? Sounds more like a Maggie Haberman type liberal

Because individual effort doesn't count for some reason. It needs to be a top-down government program that probably won't work but will stay around forever anyway, employing bureaucrats and puffing up their self-importance.

Vic's no Ayn Rander but only because she didn't go far enough.

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This is the same guy who slapped his ward, who he ignored and basically abandoned for months, for doing heroin and then during a moment of self-reflection immediately assured himself that his actions had no influence on Speedy turning to drugs.

Ollie's a piece of shit.

Not really.

Marv Wolfman was the guy who made Wally a right wing conservative Reaganite. And that was due to him hating Wally/being stuck with him when he started up New Teen Titans, since his editor forced him to keep Wally on the team, instead of ditching him along with Speedy and Aqualad.

That said, Wally's conservative political beliefs were purged the moment he became Flash. Baron and Messner-Loeb downplayed/removed Wally's conservative before Waid got his mitts on him.

well she was raised in a military family. and she's white and married

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>Most neocons and even /pol/ are in denial of Texas going blue
Yikes when they believe boomer bs like that "Latinos will turn into based conservatives".

I get not really talking about politics if they disagree with each other but Lois should still know who Clark would vote for. This makes them seem more distant than they should be.

I thought Hal Jordan was the token conservative in the DC Universe.

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It's not the Latinos that are the problem, it's the California refugees.
They're fleeing sky high taxes and insane levels of regulation in Cali, only to move to Texas and vote for more of the same.

Huh, now I see.
What about Lana or Jimmy?

I headcanon it as she basically knows but Clark is so invested in the secret ballot he won't tell her

t.Leftist dickhole

"Wally is conservative" is a horrible take as admitted by Wolfman himself.
He didn't know how to write him when he started NTT, and resorted to this idea that because he's from the Midwest he must be some kind of conservative. Pretty much everyone ignored this early NTT characterization including Wolfman after DC got angry letters about it.

Now as shown in Crisis of Conscience, he did pick up a little bit from the straight-laced Barry who of course grew up in the blue collar, bootstraps Central City with adjacent Keystone, but being close friend and partner to a reformed villain (who is also gay), Wally was more unsure of things like capital punishment and brainwashing of villains, which was also shown as far back as the Trial of Barry Allen where Wally was unsure of whether it was really ok to kill the Reverse Flash, and his stance on the brainwashing was finally reinforced by not only the Top going fucking mental from it but from Barry himself leaving him a letter stating his regret over allowing the brainwashing of the Top.

So basically, any hint of Wally's supposed conservatism has long been wiped out, which I imagine is natural when you spend your life in a community of flamboyantly dressed men and all manner of weirdos, aliens, and outcasts (literally one of his best friends is a black paraplegic from Detroit). Even his villains are almost entirely white blue-collar men.

>tl;dr
You are a casual who forms his opinions from cropped panels and out of context pages you saw on reddit rather than bothering to do the slightest amount of research or, god forbid, actually read the material in question before spouting your mouth off.

Woody Guthrie grew up in Oklahoma during the time Superman would've back in the Golden Age and Guthrie was literally a card carrying socialist.

>He hates legacy characters in general
Nah, otherwise black Wally wouldn’t have been a thing and Duke won’t become the next Batman.

man now that team up I wanna read.

and i have a new headcanon for the music that defeated darkseid

Are there even any conservative superheroes anymore? For a while being conservative meant you supported an idiot like Dubya, now being a conservative means you support an even bigger idiot like Trump.

Wally not a conservative becuade modern beliefs are racist, sexist, and close minded. No Good hero would vote for trump putting making orphans kidnapping 13,000 children in camps, and calling neo nazis "good people"

Yes but which Superman?
I say Golden Age Superman would’ve definitely been more of a conservative and anti-communist.
Modern Superman is pretty liberal for the most part.

Punisher would be one.

She's always been a feminist icon user, she has to be where the feminists are and either side with them or guide them.

That forever will be the funniest thing about Vic.

Jimmy's too pure for that shit, leave him alone. Lana would be like the Kents. Whoever supports farmers and local economy is good, as long as they adhere to Justie and the MURICAN WAY!

In all seriousness though, polidicks are one of the shittiest things in capes and just like real life, muck things up, cause even the ebst friends to split, creates rifts between relationships for no fucking reason and everyone treats it like they treat their favourite football team.

>"Wally is conservative" is a horrible take as admitted by Wolfman himself.
>He didn't know how to write him when he started NTT, and resorted to this idea that because he's from the Midwest he must be some kind of conservative. Pretty much everyone ignored this early NTT characterization including Wolfman after DC got angry letters about it.

the dialogue is stilted and weird. but i don't really blame him. odds are that wally would be a republican. even if he didn't feel the need to remind people of that every 5 minutes

i'm guessing jimmy would be democratic if bothered to vote. given what his job is and where he lives

you sure? Kal-El is a hardocore hippie with a worldview closer to eastern religions than western values.

>I say Golden Age Superman would’ve definitely been more of a conservative and anti-communist.
I say you've never read GA Supes.

yeah he worships rao

>Trump
>idiot

Dumb libs believe the lies of the lying press

Isn’t he pro-government?
He took photos of their Nuclear Bombs right?

That was in the late 40s though.

Dam son

probably?

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Golden Age lasted til 1950 though. Really, early GA Superman would've been a leftist while Superman circa when the Curt Swan style of drawing the character was cemented would've been conservative.

Batman was only a Democrat because he needed to monitor the candidate for security reasons.
I agree
How old are you?

*agree with Frank Miller that Batman would be an autocrat/fascist because frankly that's the only thing that could make sense

By non whites? Yeah.

See

I'm OK with this.

No fucking way. He’s a journalist and his planet died because retarded conservative politicians ignored the warnings of their chief scientist about the ecological damage. He also does stuff like this

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Come on user.
I Was only invested in him in JLU and BatB.
Plus, the only time I read one of his comics was a random issue from his New-52 days. He seems pretty boring overall.

>defending criminal actions
>immediately jumps to calling someone a Nazi when they point at the law
Has the left ever believed in personal responsibility?

Superman: "I support the Left."
The Right: "Feh...figures."

Superman: "I support the Right."
The Left: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! NAZI SCUM!"

Does it count when the issue is written during shitty SJW Wonder Woman?

>his planet died because retarded conservative politicians ignored the warnings of their chief scientist about the ecological damage
Definitely a human.

(turns around)
"Now that I saved your lives, you need to go back and apply to enter the country legally."

Don't think he ever told Kara or Jon to do that.

That's a pretty cool fanfiction user, I'm sure the people on /r/thedonald would upvote it if you posted it there!

>fiction

He actually does do philanthropy and gives away a lot of his money to the nerdy in various iterations where he doesn't just get screwed or of his money by some third party.

Krypton is gone and there isn't a pre-established immigration office on Mars, idiot.

Immigrants from war torn countries who can't go back are told to go through immigration services by conservatives, dipshit.

An immigrant in any situation remotely similar would still be told to visit American immigration offices by coservatives.

>implying Frank gives a shit

They ARE told to go through immigration services. That's true. That's what they're there for. What are you trying to argue?

And Superman told neither Kara or Jon to go to them. He doesn't give a damn about illegal immigration and/or would be supportive of it if the illegal immigrants were in dire situations, which most are when coming to America.

Fucking G. Ditko did nothing wrong.

i mean personally i lean republican. but i can accept superman being written as leaning more democratic

This argument is retarded, but this was touched on in Grounded when some aliens are hiding on Earth and Clark called them out.
But there's a reason everyone hates Grounded.

If a country was fucking destroyed I don't think it'd be very difficult to apply for asylum

>Superman supporting breaking through border security and breaking federal law
Keep telling yourself that, user.

Much less the entire goddamned planet. Or, in Karen's case, the entire native universe.
He spent a good portion of the Golden Age wanted by the FBI.

That wasn't written by Ditko. Also nobody really cares that much about Ditko's Question if we're being honest.

Ironic since it's old-school canon that Amazons would kidnap men for mating purposes.

And that is why i like him. He is an asshole.

That picture is illegal Mexicans who snuck into the country.
Superman would save their lives and fly them to the Mexican immigration office.
"Careful, amigos! It's everyone's duty to obey the law and wait their turn in line."

Really Ollie loses and then regains his money every few years basically.

Not to conservatives

Who were statistically in a dire situation. Superman wouldn't send them back.

Politics in comics is super gay

None are rightwing since the 90s.

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I think they make a joke about that in green lantern

>statistically in a dire situation
wut

It's "statistically" a shit culture. We should only let in those who are capable of following the law.
They'll be fine. They have the Mexican Justice League to protect them.
"MEANWHILE IN THE MEXICAN HALL OF JUSTICE!"
(dogs barking in the distance, followed by several gunshots)

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Then tell me what the FUCK is this shit then?

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>Golden Age lasted til 1950 though. Really, early GA Superman would've been a leftist while Superman circa when the Curt Swan style of drawing the character was cemented would've been conservative.

yeah that would make the most sense. too bad that's not how earth 2 superman got written in the 2000s when he came back

>Why are you afraid of staying in a primarily non white country?
>Is it because they're all shit holes that no one wants to fix?

What the FUCK green lantern!

Isn't that from one of the KFC crossovers?

>TFW you will never have your wife feed you whilst you ogle her bulbous femininity

I guess you could say he is a literal GREEN arrow.

If he was a real hero, he'd just heat vison them on the spot.

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Anglos are cucks anyway, they won't be missed. The Mediterranean people are the actual Chads of the whites.

Yes