Now that the dust has settled, who was the MVP in Avengers: Endgame?

>literally responsible for leaking the plan and taking Thanos to the future (even if unwillingly)
>MVP

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To me it’s a three way tie

>Ant-Man
>Nebula
>Doctor Strange (in retrospect to Infinitt War)

Scott was treated so well in this movie. He really is a great hero. I hope the public appreciate him.

If he was a little younger he'd be using it to get some more innovative sex from Hope, but I think he's too old for that sort of nonsense now.

Based ratposters.
Also, they're right. The rat saved the universe.

Nebula times Nebula plus Nebula multiplied by Nebula

We are saying the rat, but I'm having the nagging feeling that Strange is internally facepalming.
>How long did it took?
>About 5 years.
>...five years...FIVE YEARS?! DID NO ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES DECIDE TO CHECK LANG'S VAN?! LANG HAD TO GET TRAPPED THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY ENDGAME YOU FUCKERS!

Yesyes, Strange-Man-Thing. All went according to planplan.

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Killed the real Thanos by chopping off his head. "I went for the head"
Plays fortnite and chirps kids online.
Drinks beer all day.
Chills with Korg and Miek.

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The movie showcased how much of a good boy Scott is.

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>Implying the true endgame wasn't the ludicrously complex series of events that leads to that rat being in that van in the proper time to bring Scott out of the Quantum Realm having experienced only five hours of imprisonment

lrn28Dbackgammon.

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The Dude

Captain America in terms of entertainment value.

Pym.

Tony
>figured out time travel
>snap 2.0
Strange
>picked the right timeline
>ported everyone in
Captain feminism
>brought Tony/Nebula back
>Destroyed the ship
Nebula
>kept Tony alive
>knew where Thanos was

The big 4

Still Strange.

People seem to forget about Nat and her sacrafice

Thank you...

Captain Marvel

This completly

>could have time stoned Thanos into a dusty corpse in infinity war.
Didnt.

But Thor actually killed the real Thanos.

...

Tony would not have figured out time travel without Scott. He would not have even considered it.

It was an ensemble effort.

Why Nebula?

Yeah, they did a good job at making everyone useful.

>1 in 14 million shot of suriving Thanos and winning
>had to endure the snap and deal with the aftermath for 5 years
>All just to have a rat be born in the heart of San Fransisco, grow to maturity, and leave its nest for food
>Eventually entering a random storage depot, getting on top of a abandoned van, and pressing some random keys of a Keyboard

It all hinged on this one rat to live and do this in order for them to win against an Alien with a shiny gauntlet and a god complex.

Rat: The True Avenger MCU movie when?

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The rat

I just watched the movie, and I honestly thought you faggots were joking about the girl power moment, but man, I rolled my eyes into my fucking skull.
The worst part of the movie to me was still the Captain America wank though, I just find the character so bland..

Doctor strange because he set everything in motion.

Everybody had a part to play, but Hank Pym's tech was absolutely essential in making sure that time travel and the time heist was even possible, everyone would have had to live with the snap otherwise.

Definitely Scott.
>proposed Time Heist
>provided Pym Particles
>test subject for time tunnel
>saved Hulk, Rocket, and Rhodey

that said, I just want to point out that only ONE member of the entire Avengers army solo'd Thanos without taking a single hit and made him cry for help.

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Wanda. Wanda was kicking Thanos' ass so hard he had to call in a fucking airstrike like the cry baby he is

I'm a giant self loathing masochist who loves strong female characters and I found that scene really cringey. IW did it better with Wanda, Widow and Black Panther chick teaming up to take on Thanos's minions.

Which was pointless.

shocked that disney had to put a mouse in it to save the day

is it a metalphor?

Tony's snap was only killing Thanos, which they could've done with enough time. Tony could've survived if they could've held off Thanos any longer and his snap was just a desperation move to keep him from getting the stones again.Hulk got the important snap that brought everyone back.

>107342715
People really don't give Scarlet Witch enough credit. She almost single-handedly killed Thanos.

That was a reasonable scene in IW though; The battle was immense and on a large scale, but I can buy that those three run into each other in the midst of it.

Difference in Endgame is that suddenly EVERYONE magically appears in the same spot. There's not a single guy around to help them out, every one of the girls gets their go at looking ebin by smacking some mooks around, and in retrospect, why the fuck did they even need any of that if Carol can just fly straight through Thanos's army unhindered? It's all such a pandering, superficial and obviously staged scene that it took me completely out of the scene.

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and if she had stayed with Vision like she was fucking told to in Infinity War none of this would have happened

Who had at that point made it intentionally useless to do that, so that his legacy would have permanence. That's why Thor broken down in his New Asgard house saying "I'm the one who killed that guy" came across as so desperate and pathetic. He wanted to still be the hero, but his opportunity to stop the terrible thing from happening had passed him by, and there was nothing he could do to stop it.

Are humans in the MCU weak?

it seems like humanity pre-stark was pretty low-tier

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They need that Parker peter

On a cosmic races tier list, it seems so. Ordinary Asgardians are stronger and more resilient, as are Kree and Skrulls. Many of the Guardians are biologically enhanced, so it's difficult to gauge their races based on the team's feats, but the team at least are all much more powerful than humans, except for Quill, who mostly relies on gadgets, and since Ego's death, is "just like everyone else". Only vaguely humanoid aliens I can think of that might be weaker are the insectoid Sakaaran soldiers, AKA "paper people".

Yes and no.

On the one hand, humanity doesn't have any of the niche powers any of the other races have as whole to start. Everything unique, they have to work for.

However, every human that begins to tap into their potential punches well above their weight.

>Quill has murdered a god, and has utilised an infinity stone barehanded
>Stark has the highest kill count against Thanos' forces
>Spiderman can go toe to toe with multiple hyper lethal alien beasts, and is as strong as cull obsidian, easily catching his axe
>Antman can punch out a Chitauri Whale with one punch, and can crush Cull underfoot, as I assume the rest of the Ant family can do as well
>Wanda and Marvel are literally two of the only remnants of the infinity stones left
>Hawkeye and Widow have weapons skills comparable to a highly skilled alien assassin
>Cap, Bucky and Panther even more so on top of this
>War machine and Falcon would be formiddable defenders of any other race
>Banner literally can't kill himself, and only took a burned and damaged arm from holding near infinite energy
>Strange could doom your planet in a multitude of niche ways, most of them involving portals or mirror dimensions
>On top of this, you have specialised forces like the Dora Milaje, the Sorcerers, the Iron army, and SHIELD that are surprisingly effective

Humanity is the class that's very weak at the beginning, begins to ramp up midgame, and is completely OP afterwards

Cry more billy

Arguably, the only character that really didn't contribute was Rhodes, unless you count keeping Rocket from getting crushed.

They were both the real Thanos you brainlet

> Scott
> Nebula
> the rat who HAD a name.

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Their racial bonus seems to be malleability.They're like the eevees of the universe; getting powers from shit that just destroys other races

Is he asleep?

They wouldn't have done shit without Steve's motivational speech!

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The Flerken
The army of giant ants
The wakandan rhinos
Lady Sif
Syvester Stalone and the Milie Cyrus robot

Best fight scene in the final battle.

Elizabeth Olsen is so charming

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>*brings everyone back*
You're fucking welcome

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>b-b-but he didn't smash anything!
>he should have had a rematch with Thanos and gotten his ass kicked like Thor, Tony, and Steve!

I'm just glad the Banner was actually happy with himself.

Work backwards
>Tony ends the threat of Thanos and saves all of existence in 14 million to 1 odds
>Dr Strange tipped him the nod to make that dice roll and gathered the army needed for the board to be set
>Hulk fucking resurrected half the population of the galaxy
>Widow's self-sacrifice allowed Hulk to do that
>She had the ability to get the Soul Stone because Tony, Hulk, Rocket and Nebula built a fucking time machine
>Which was Ant-Man's idea
>Who was only able to come up with the idea because of a rat
based rodent

Killing Thanos means the infinity stones are just lying around, waiting for someone else to use them and cause god-knows-how-much destruction, either immediately afterward or much later.

She's glass cannon tier. She has enough brute force to solo practically anyone, provided she's able to subdue/restrain/whatever them before they can counterattack and none of their allies comes to help. If someone actually gets the drop on SW, or if she has to fight while protecting someone else, or if she's outnumbered or something she goes down immediately.

Conversely, who was the least useful?
Or at least the two or three less useful

She actually DID things for the betterment of humanity. If you committed suicide, no one would call you a hero, because you have to actually do something positive to be recognized as one.

>Least useful
Hawkeye, Captain Marvel, Banner

I feel like the raccoon didn't do a lot overall, he was just kinda there

>A jew saved the entire universe

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Tony's not Jewish.

Warmachine is up there.

>literal rat is the cataclysm for everything
>the mouse has fully transformed into what most haters deem it to be anyway literal poetry. It's kinda retarded if you think about it though and further proof that they pulled the entire thing with 14 million possibilities out of their asses

I meant the rat, but that can work too lol

But based ScarJo is.

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The 1 in 14 millions was Antman surviving the quantum realm. Tony himself said it when they came up to him with the idea.

They make a One-Shot that shows the rube goldberg machine of ludicrously unlikely events leading to the rat hitting the switch.

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CORVUS HELP

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He got the reality stone was Thor was having a breakdown.

>taps into their potential
You mean become some half human/half something hybrid like 50% of your list.

Based Dr. Keikaku

Hawkeye was extremely useful in this movie I have no idea what you're on about. And Captain Marvel wasn't on screen too often, but whenever she was she was invaluable

What a retard

fpbp

>banner was useless
>when he did the first snap that brought everyone back to life
max retard
Mantis did almost literally nothing

>good boy
>can't stop staring at America's ass

Hank Pym

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Toku nerd here
Pretty used to scenes with "HEROES WITH SIMILAR QUALITY TEAMING UP FOR BIG ATTACK DESPITE NOT PERSONALLY KNOWING EACH OTHER"
so i was numb
No eyeroll or anything the situation was just normal
Just reaminded me of the beast heros in taisen Z

>he's just big green bruce now
HOW THE FUCK DID MEMES BECOME REALITY

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>Posts three characters who were literally indispensable in some way

Banner Hulk has been around before, so has Professor Hulk, they are not the same personality.

>IW did it better with Wanda, Widow and Black Panther chick teaming

Strong disagree.

based boomer Thor.

>Antman can punch out a Chitauri Whale with one punch, and can crush Cull underfoot, as I assume the rest of the Ant family can do as well

>a gigantic Evangeline Lilly will never squash you out like a roach

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nope. pretty sure he says "one in a billion"

Weekend at Thor's

Memes do come true. Thor became literally the boomer meme.

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Eso foes that mean Fortnite has gone from Zoomer to Boomer core?

Are we counting the people who were already snapped at the start of the movie and only came back for the final battle? Because most of them accomplished almost nothing overall. Quill, Drax and Mantis are up there.

If we're only counting people who were alive and potentially doing stuff start-to-finish, FUCKING HAWKEYE.

I can't understand the majority of the words in your post and I think I'm glad for that.

domo arigato mr based ratto

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underrated

>inflation up the ass

nope

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i had to google who the rat was

it was most definitely the rat

>Rat: The True Avenger
lmao I'd watch that shit.

warmachine

Was pleasantly surprised when I thought she was going to job by getting close, but instead she destroys his weapon and has him in a death grip in under a minute.

I think we can agree the movie hulk was just Bruce "7 PHDs" Banner Hulk, though I guess he was called Professor Hulk wasn't he?

Can anyone though?

Scoot Lang was the MVP, glad to see him star in Endgame.

Did they actually call him that?

him or Black Widow

YOU LIE

>big green and smart
>but no small green and strong
wasted potential

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>Doctor Strange coming in clutch at the end
Feels so fucking good bro. Glad they haven't changed as an S tier character

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JUST DOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT

>"If it comes down to saving the stone, you, or the kid. I will not hesitate to let both of you die."
At least he's a man if his word.

>we're in the endgame now
>final battle starts 5 five years later
ok strange

He knew they would call the movie Endgame so he was being preemptive.

tfw Tony was the one who first called space stuff 'endgame'
He was too good for this world.

I'd watch it

did warmachine land a single hit on anything at all other than quill?

If Scott hadn't been trapped in the quantum realm for 5 years, he wouldn't have realised that time worked differently in there and would never have given them the idea to time travel

from his perspective the final battle would have started immediately after he got dusted

there is nothing wrong with looking at america's ass
you
you
double commie

He would've realized it no matter how long he spent there. Like for example, if he gets released from there almost instantaneously from his perspective, but then discovers it's now ten hours later than it was when he got in.
But I'm not sure if anyone even knew about their experiment enough to check up on them. And even if they knew, it might not always be smart to touch buttons on a Pym invention.
I'm also uncertain if Scott still would've come up with the idea of time-travel. Missing out on five years and realizing everyone else has accepted this new world long ago would've been shocking. It was probably part of the reason why he thought of going back to the past and undoing things instead of trying to find a way to cope with the current status quo.

Strange didn't pick the timeline. Once he died he couldn't influence shit. He gambled that this would be the one.

-Tony made Scott's time travel theory work.
-Tony made the duplicate Infinity Gauntlet
-Tony sacrificed his own happiness to destroy Thanos

Answer is obvious.

>strange looks at fifteen quadrillion possible futures
>literally the only one they win is where a fucking rat coincidentally flips a switch
It kind of gives the impression that the Avengers are pretty shitty at their job

TIME HEIST RANKING
Iron Man (Made time travel possible, Assisted acquisition of 2 stones)
Hank Pym (Made time travel possible)
Ant-Man (Mastermind, provided Pym Particles, Assisted Acquisition of 1 stone)
Hulk (Acquired 1 stone, Snapped back the 50%)
Black Widow (Acquired 1 stone by sacrificing her life)
Captain America (Assisted acquisition of 2 separate stones, defeated himself)
Rocket (Acquired 1 stone with useless partner)
Hawkeye=War Machine (Assisted acquisition of 1 stone)
Nebula (+Assisted acquisition of 1 stone, +Provided location of 2, -Leaks intel to Thanos)
Thor (Worthless)

FINAL BATTLE RANKING
(I Am...) Iron Man
Scarlet Witch (Completely overpowered Thanos)
Captain Marvel (Briefly overpowered Thanos preventing Snap, Destroyed ship)
Dr Strange (Brought Reinforcements, Held back flood)
Wong (Brought reinforcements)
Captain America (Briefly rocked Thanos Shit, lead the team, said the line)
Hawkeye, Black Panther, Spider-man (Gauntlet relay team)
Rescue, Wasp, Shuri (Briefly rocked Thanos Shit)
Ant-Man (Rescued Hulk, War Machine and Rocket. Killed a leviathan)
Hulk (Stopped War Machine/Rocket being crushed)
Valkyrie (Killed leviathan)
Falcon=Drax (Stabbed the shit out of big gorilla things)
Thor (Repeatedly distracted Thanos by allowing him to beat him senseless)
Starlord (Got kneed in the Infinity Stones)

Can't remember what everyone else was doing.

Isn't it like, Strange's whole thing to not mean what he says?
Or am I confusing him with Constatine?

Thor grabbed Cap's level up in the heist, he did the most of them all.

>Dr Strange (Brought Reinforcements, Held back flood)
Why didn't Strange just open a portal to move the water somewhere else
He didn't even get a chance to show off in the fight

This, little buddy saved the universe.

Ant-Man also brought the time van to the final battle and killed Cull Obsidian.

What did the time van do in the final battle? I remember Scott saying "that's not the only time machine we have" and van getting the focus and then... I can't remember a damn thing.

Ultimately nothing. It was Plan B for sending the stones back, but Thanos fragged it at the last second.

Black Widow
Iron Man
Hulk
Ant-Man
Nebula
Dr. Strange

THIS

Thor brings Mjolnir to the battle

Just your typical "This could easily solve the climax early without any deaths but it won't work because we need maximum drama." They were going ot use to send the stones back so Thanos couldn't use it, Scott and Hope repaired it and Carol charged through with the glove and almost made but it Thanos tossed his sword and destroyed it just before she gets there.

It was like them trying to stop Loki from opening the portal, or Ultron from lifting Sokovia. Almost made it, but not quite because solving the climax isn't that easy.

Now that the dust has settled and we all agree Scott is best boy...
What the fuck was the orange slices joke?

>Can't remember what everyone else was doing.

Nebula stopped her old self from getting the gauntlet and charged with the other Lady Vengers. Gamora saved Quill and stabbed one guy with her sword. Mantis knocked out one of the big dudes then made some kung fu poses. Okoye speared at least two things.

Rhodey did jack in battle and his new suit didn't fire a shot, though he did help Rocket when the base was collapsing. Rocket took a few potshots and tackled Groot out of the way of ship fire. Groot did absolutely nothing but almost get shot. Bucky fired his gun angrily at the screen for a second. Howard the Duck and Thor's rock friend walked in holding guns but did nothing. Kraglin showed up so briefly most people missed him entirely.

Vitamin C helps with fatigue.

Vitamin C helps with alcohol metabolization. Orange juice/fruit slices help with hangovers.

rhodes is a true hero, its like his story in ultron that normies love but avengers dont. he does a little, but it goes a long way for the world

That's more than Groot and Bucky did which was basically nothing but get shot at and fire a few potshots respectively.

That makes him best boy

I like to think that Ant-Man would have been dusted but survived because of being quantum.

I had the biggest smile on my face when they played the Ant-Man theme when Scott appears

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Iron Man.

>True American hero
You know she's Russian

Youre welcome

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More like the writers didn't give her enough credit before Endgame. She's really nerfed in the MCU.

100% this. Endgame was FAR from perfect, but I have a feeling there's a leftist political element that's more responsible for defending it despite the glaring issues.

It's definitely not Thor after they humiliated his character like they did.

fuck these Starkfags, Tony couldnt even begin making time travel without Pym Particles

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>Ant-Man (Rescued Hulk, War Machine and Rocket. Killed a leviathan)
i can only imagine how much easier the Battle For NY would have been had Ant Man been there

The ancient one was there but just threw some magic disks at randos.

Captain America & Ant-Man

>but I have a feeling there's a leftist political element that's more responsible for defending it despite the glaring issues.
Of course there is. You see it's based on comic books. Which are drawings. And as we know everyone who draws and makes movies based on drawings is a liberal who couldn't get a real job like a lawyer or a corporate vice president. So they're all leftists. And the leftists drawing people who are akin to the autists that would vandalise cave walls and upset and divide the tribes form the political block that is trying to destroy conservative God's America.

Fuck did anyone else feel weird, when falcon straight up stabbed some dude with his wings feel like that came out of nowhere

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gi-ant-man

The rat who released pic related

yea he should have done some wicked shit, his fight with thanos was the best thing about infinity war
have him fight the army because if he 1 on 1 thanos without stones the movie is over

these 2

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>Definitely Scott.
>>proposed Time Heist
>>provided Pym Particles
>>test subject for time tunnel
>>saved Hulk, Rocket, and Rhodey
>survived losing his burrito
>succeeded at his time heist part only for Stark to fuck it up
>one-punched a big floating worm

he definitely did the most outside of the O6 Avengers. Carol would have been next closest:
>saved Stark
>helped subdue retired Thanos
>made fun of rocket
>fukken wrecked Thanos's megaship
>hit on Spider-Twink
>almost made it in the macguffin run but for Big T's utter hatred of Ford vans with annoying horn sounds
>prevented Thanos from snapping for vital seconds

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>knocked Quill the fuck out
>tracked Hawkeye down
>dissed Carol for her perkiness
>made Nebs feel human (like Stark at the start)
>took the orb off Nebula before time travelling home (if she'd kept it it would have been all over there and then)

Hoping they continue to do more with Rhodey, esp. now Stark's gone. Whedon didn't have a clue but the Russos are just giving him enough onscreen time to separate him from the background herd.

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>would have been all over there and then
when they came back empty handed, they woulda just used the pym particles that cap boosted from the base to try again.

Captain Strong Woman. WIthout her, Tony and Nebula would have died in space and they wouldn't have time travel nor the Power Stone.

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I love how hard she jobbed in the final battle.