Wait, why didn't they just snap Tony back to life?
Wait, why didn't they just snap Tony back to life?
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Because then someone else would be dead, retard.
Just get Hulk to do it again later on when he's recovered from being a little bitch.
Because RDJ costs $70 million.
Hulk nearly died from one snap, a second would kill him.
The Hulk could do it. Just use his left hand this time. Both his arms would be fucked but at least Tony would still be alive.
The snap clearly fucked his entire body up, it just fucked his arm up the most. He gets immediately knocked out and his eyes are welling up with blood when he does it, given how much Thanos got fucked up from snapping twice, Hulk would probably die.
Just have Carol do it.
>Hey Carol can you
>I HAVE TO GO NOW THERE'S A CAT STUCK IN A TREE ON JUPITER
Didn't Hulk say he tried to bring Widow back to life? I imagine the stones don't bring people back to life unless they were snapped away.
Apparently Dr. The Hulk mode doesn't have regen powers
He couldn't bring her back to life because it was a soul stone exchange, not because she wasn't dusted.
He couldn't bring Widow back because she was sacrificed for the soul stone which is apparantly unrefundable.
It would be a cheat to be able to rez what you had to give up to get it. Otherwise Thanos would have immediately brought back Gamora.
Doctor Professor The Hulk sure is fucking lame.
Her power came from one of the stones, no way would she survive using it
hummmmmm that makes sense.
That's unfair to Bruce to cripple himself for Tony.
Tony wouldn't want that.
if you bring him back you're literally bringing him back full of radiation and he'll just die again. You can't snap people back to life at a certain point in time
Says who? The fucking glove/stones can literally reshape all of reality.
IDK the Hulk in a Christopher Reeves type wheel chair would be entertaining
>Go back in time to assemble the infinity gauntlet and take it with you
>Go to the moment where Natasha dies and tell her she doesn't need to sacrifice herself
>Snap and take her to the present with you
>Let her live out her days and on her dying bed, time stone her to being young again and take her back to that point in time and let her die to prevent the timelines from splitting
>???
>profit
>Go back in time to the moment Tony snaps
>Bring Hulk with you
>Use him to snap instead
>Let him live out his days and on his dying bed, time stone him to being young again and take him back to that point in time and let him die to prevent the timelines from splitting
>???
>profit
>Go back in time to take the time stone
>Use it to make old cap young again
>???
>profit
>See a new enemy arising
>Go back in time to assemble the infinity gems
>Snap him out of existence
>???
>profit
that's not how gloves work, user, they only fit in one hand.
They didn’t have enough money.
they don't need to actually snap to bring someone who died normally back to life
they can just use the soul stone alone, like thanos used the stones individually in IW
so wait, if i recall the origin for the stones was that basically god killed himself out of loneliness. so what stopped him from just creating a universe to grow so he could make friends?
Couldn't Dr. Strange just heal him with magic? His a doctor, anyway.
make a death-row criminal do it then.
Well you'd need the reality stone to create a body, the mind stone to restore their memories, and the soul stone to bring them back to life.
someone explain how a gauntlet that turns you into God can kill you because you use godly power
Thanos is stronger than Hulk and HE could barely handle a second snap, presumably much weaker than the first.
>give death-row criminal super gauntlet that grants infinite-magnitude wish
Why not just snap yourself a body capable of withstanding using the infinity gauntlet?
Do we need snap to bring just one life. I thought its threatening because its done in universal scale.
For whatever reason you only seem to be able to revive people who were dusted, no one else.
You can. In fact you can do that with just the Timestone as shown when Thanos unkilled Vision, and back in Dr Strange, he unkilled Wong.
However, that would just rewind the moment, and Tony would have to do the snap again or else Thanos wouldn't die.
I mean, Thanos isn’t that big a deal if they just keep the gems away from him, which tony was more than capable of.
because humans are not supposed to have godly powers, and our bodies are not prepared to receive such power
They were out of ways to do that though. He very nearly got them, and if Tony didn't snap it Thanos would have just rushed him and took them back.
Carol was down, Thor was down, BruceHulk had a bad arm, Cap was beaten and shield smashed Strange was pinned down holding back the water and Tony was pretty beat up, and they had no way to get them back because Thanos destroyed the X-Con van, and destroyed their bigger gate upon arrival. And even if they destroyed the glove, he'd just have to take the gems, port out with the space stone and head over to Etri to force him to make a glove for him.
Their only other potential option was to bail, somehow get to Wakanda to build a new Quantum tunnel, and hold off Thanos from chasing them in the meantime, all the while Thanos was laying waste to Earth.
Or Tony could sacrifice himself and be the only other one to die that day. He opted to get rid of Thanos then.
I haven't even seen any MCU movies since Iron Man 2 and even I know that would kill the next person who used it.
Maybe not Hulk if he wasn't still fucked from last time, though.
Then how would he wipe his ass?
Thor probably could have withstood it with injury like Hulk and Thanos did, but he wasn't nearly in the right mind state for it to work right. Valkrie and any other "Strong" Asgardian, if any were left as well.
Carol might have been able as well. And maybe Steve just might have been able to barely survive at the cost of becoming a crippled vegetable.
But yeah, any normal human is toast.
Why didnt they just travel into the future where they win and borrow dead tony's gauntlet. Snap everyone back then return it again?
No one dies scenario.
How come nobody tried to bring back Vision?
Or just sling ring gauntlet to other dimension, let SW have round two with Thanos. She nearly killed him first time.
The "Tony has to die" is bullshit. EG Thanos is not invincible.
Because the stones aren't meant to be used by mortal hands
That’s the point
Take a minute and think about why thats a bad idea
>when Thanos unkilled Vision
You can't kill a robot. Thanos just used the Time Stone's rewind function to reassemble a broken stone and the machine attached to it. That's entirely different than bringing a dead thing back to life.
or use the reality stone to turn thanos and his army into cubes?
Shuri was the only one who could fix him and she got dusted.
Now she's back, just in time for his and Wanda's tv show.
Wait, so heres a fucking crazy idea I had
When Dr. The Hulk was fucking around with the Quantum Realm before Stark got involved, he was affecting Scott's age, right?
Why not do that with oldCap? Just make him young again
Everything you said wont change shit and will just spawn new realities
I would hesitate to argue over something like that when it's clearly intended as just a joke sequence.
I believe that the reason why time travel was so heavily featured was just in case Evans or Downey ever wanna come back they have an easy way to do so.
>what is k6bd
Strange still resurrect a lot of people on his movie, including Wong
>It would be cheating
But isn't that what the gauntlet is? A massive universal fucking cheat code? I doubt whoever set up the soul stone exchange would have thought "Oh gee better make this loophole free in case some purple asshole thinks of gathering all the stones together"
if you possess the stones you are God, you are no longer mortal or human.
Because Cap clearly didn't want to. He'd lived his life and was ready to retire.
But they did give that the option if there's some massive emergency they just can't get by without him they can use that to deage him, incase Evans ever changes his mind.
And they can say they can't get it quite right but close enough if Evans is looking older by then.
They didn't even have to do that. They could have just given the time stone to Strange and let him resurrect.
Why didn't Nebula just travel back in time after her minor tech freak Out? I get she was trying to warn the group but nothing was stopping her from hitting the warp button the moment the escape pod was being beamed to Thanos's ship.
Why do they put so much emphasis on it needing to be a finger snap to do it?
Like seriously it’s a gauntlet giving god like powers, you don’t NEED to do a finger snap like Thanos did just to use it right?
Couldn’t Starlord use it then since he was half Celestial?
>When Dr. The Hulk was fucking around with the Quantum Realm before Stark got involved, he was affecting Scott's age, right?
>Why not do that with oldCap? Just make him young again
Or better yet, why not use this technology on Tony to revive his body after the snap?
They make it a point that he needs to gesture to use the powers, and in both movies he's stopped from using it's power if he can't move his fingers, by the cloak in IW and by Carol in EG.
I guess it doesn't have to be finger snap specifcially, but it needs some kind of extravagant gesture to use it's power.
She glitched out when she tried. Presumably Thanos was stopping her.
>ome kind of extravagant gesture
Tony flipping Thanos off to dust him would have been great.
They probably did make a loophole to keep someone from using the stones to undo their sacrifice, because that was the entire point of the sacrifice so that only someone who knew the weight of loss could use the stone.
Getting a way to undo that would mean someone could abuse the test by sacrificing something they knew they could get back.
IG in MCU is not as OP like its comic counterpart user
Because the gauntlet overloads the user with cosmic power. If Professor Hulk were to snap with his other arm he would be so overloaded with Cosmic Energies he would be fucking dead. Plus using the gauntlet to snap others back to life over and over just results in more people being dead than being resurrected. I doubt Carol can handle the energies of the gauntlet, Asgardian bodies probably can’t hold or withstand all that cosmic energy so Thor is out of the question, Cap would try then suffer the same fate, continue down the line and you get the point.
On the topic of stones, would you say there weaker than 616 or more they have more drawbacks like 'if your not thanos you die with one use'
Since universe wide rewind and bringing time to fuck with dormammu is still pretty high level comic stuff.
I mean with a casual gesture he was able to destroy a planet and telekninetically hurl the stones towards titan.
It seems more like he was playing with the avengers or being distracted a lot of the time
That was a lot of effort to look like the dumbest man on Yea Forums
He WAS half celestial. He looses his inmortality and ability to touch a stone w/o dying when he destroys Ego on guardians 2.
Holy shit. Just realize that reality quil is likely still half celestial. Wish I could peek in on that timeline
I mean that timeline honestly may be fucked, without thanos nebula and quill the timeline may be fucked due to no GOTG thus noone to stop ego from recruiting quill and eating all the planets.
On the other hand Ego only found Quill because he heard about him holding the power stone in his bare hand and surviving,
However without the Power Stone incident tipping Ego off to Quill's existance it's also possible Ego never finds out about him and his Expansion plan is forever stalled.
I came here just to ask that. Figured in Infinity Gauntlet it was just to show how easily he could pull off that shit with all the gems, but then in the movies everyone's obsessed about it like it's some hipster cafe bullshit.
True but ego is immortal, so he may just continue killing his children over and over
Bitch, Thanos rewind time to undo vision death with the time stone, Strange could do that shit too to restore Tony, but it was cheap and RDJ is expensive
gamora was taken from the past and brought forward as a pseudo-resurrection. why can't they literally rewind to right before their deaths and steal them into the future? keep the stone and save widow? bring back the alternate tony from before he died, etc.
Considering Natasha can’t be brought back by the snap, Tony’s death by the infinity stone’s backfire may also be irreversible.
Vision didnt come back with the snap either but nobody seems to give a shit.
The Morgan in that timeline would be fatherless you heartless monster
>can't rez soulstone exchanges
While Gamorra is literally standing right there
Obviously you can
Obviously this shit is stupid
he was never alive
Once the hype dies down you're gonna realize this shit is worse than the star wars prequels
I'm not one of the people that thought that this movie was fine kino or anything. But I'd never elevate the prequels by comparing them to this.
Assuming you can’t loophole your ass out of it-
What would you sacrifice your life to snap for?
Assume the gauntlet turns to dust with you when you do it too, for simplicity sake.
then why did he get snapped
...what?
Did you even watch the movie?
But having all the stone together in one place, for a specific purpose would one of those things no one could predict, especially since they could only be wielded by extraordinary people.
As far as we know, the stones have always been separated from each other and no one, until Thanos, thought of bringing them all together.
Shit, I almost thought he said sequels when I reread it. That would've been a real insult. prequels are memeable at least.
The only real missed opportunity in the movies was that we never got to see what the soul stone does on its own.
I didn't get how the ending worked.
shouldn't Captain staying in the past to live a normie life completely fuck up everything?
That's also true. I'm almost hoping they return in future movies, cause the forces that make em up still exist blah blah.
Mostly because I think it be the only way(and be awesome) if they where used for a God Emperor Doom storyline
Alternate reality, it's been confirmed. Which may or may not be worse if you really wanna think about it.
The snap was a wish of different magnitude.
This is bringing one guy back vs half the entire universe, surely it wouldn't kill you
Alternate timeline. That's not the Gamora that got sacrificed to the soul stone. She's still in the stone, which was reduced to atoms in the wind.
They could go steal a Natasha from an alternate realty by plucking her out of time. But that wouldn't really be getting "Their" Natasha back and they be depriving that timeline of their version.
Are you retarded?
That was Gamora from a different timeline.
Just wearing the gauntlet almost killed hulk.
That's cause he's presumably in some Wakandan warehouse somewhere still with a hole in his head.
Vision needs to be fixed, not un dusted, and the only person with the know how to do that was also dusted, and his only know power source was taken away.
professor hulk was a bitch, and it seems like the gauntlet only does that when you wear it all at once.
in IW Thanos was gradually collecting the stones and getting used to the power.
The soul stone might, if only because I don't think they could do Adam Warlock well without it.
616 Stones were better.
...they should just fix that with the Reality gem.
I wonder how the fuck even Steve returned the soul gem?
A lot of the stuff in the movies seems weaker than the comics.
I think in the beginning they were afraid of going all out on power levels and alienating normalfag audiences.
Also Ultimate was an inspiration for most of the MCU and I don't think that universe is generally more powerful than the 616.
probably gave it to Red Skull
That Gamora came from the past though. She wasn't resurrected with the gauntlet.
Why not just take most of the stones out of the gauntlet, except the Time stone and the Soul stone, and rewind him back to life, and his soul back into his body? Seems pretty simple, and you'd probably not have to burn up your arm just to do that, because the burden is only two stones.
Just have strange heal hulk with the time stone
or hell, just use the time stone to reverse Tony's injuries
Two gauntlets
I hope you're pretending to be retarded
616 stones literally make you god. There's no comparison.
MCU stones are a thousand times weaker. A million times. They also added a bunch of stuff like you have to close your had to use the gauntlet or you have to snap your fingers to do something big. Thanos snapped his fingers in the comics to kill half the universe but he didn't have to he could have done it standing perfectly still, the snap was just showboating.
Kept in in MCU and made it something required. The closing the hands stuff to use the stones was just to make better fight sequences. It can't be as powerful as it was in the comics or there would be no fight sequences. Thanos without moving would stop time and make every molecule in every MCU hero's body explode at lightspeed.
All the gauntlet is in MCU is a really powerful weapon that can do some energy blasts and illusions and grant limited wishes when you snap your fingers but also almost kills you when you make wishes. The 616 gauntlet just instantly turns you into full on God the second you put it on.
Time travel is cancer to fiction.
Time travel won't solve everything, Mr. McCoy. This is why the Watcher hates you.
Why would he? He wasn't killed by the snap, are you dumb?
Wtf are these edits anymore
Quantum time travel - single timeline, but a character can both exist and can't at the same time. Captain coming back was his new present, and him being in the past was his future, while his past was going at the same time
It will take Shuri some months to figure out the data and rebuild him.
T'challa will likely send a Royal Fallon escort to take Wanda to Wakanda when the time comes.
>Abbadon ripped off Jim Starlin
You know, it’s entirely plausible.
Now I'm a bit mad we didn't get to see Cap and Red Skull have a final meeting. The biggest missed opportunity.
Absolute godhood, at the cost of my body of course.
Who says I need my body to become a godlike ethereal being? We saw Bruce could leave his body and the soul stone exists so souls are real. I'd embrace that fully.
Nope, in Endgame they say that the timelines don't change when you bring everything you take in the past back to the point where it was taken, which is why i included that in the first two examples
Also 3 and 4 don't split the timelines in any way
Go back in time to an "alternate reality" and have an alternate Hulk snap Tony back.
>Use it to make old cap young again
No need. They just need to do the same thing they did to Scott before Tony's time GPS.
Let's be real. If we quantify exactly how time-travel and gauntlet work, there's no freaking way that he can't be brought back. Make a splinter timeline, bring him from there, then collapse the timeline. Like with old gamora or something. Or recreate him from scratch with the gauntlet. Or bring an alternate reality folk to do it, likesaid. There's definitely a way.
The reason he wasn't brought back was meta.
>The reason he wasn't brought back was meta
Hell, the reason why he was killed off was meta. In that battle, there were so many ways to deal with Thanos' forces without having to snap them away. Especially with Carol and Thor there, and the fact that Wanda could already deal with Thanos.
The only problem of urgency was that Thanos had the new gauntlet. But once Tony took the stones, he could have just fired his armor off with the stones on an AI program into space (Thanos can't fly) or something similar. Shunt the armor so small thanks to Pym Particles so Thanos can't find it. Etc. There were a lot of narrative and logical ways to deal with Thanos once Tony got the gems.
So the reason why he died was because RDJ's contract is ending and they're all essentially passing the torch. Meta.
This
They basically created an infinite fountain of youth all the while having the ability to assemble powers that bend all reality to your while should they so desire, not to mention that Tony basically figured that shit out literally in an afternoon on his couch.
What they should've done is introduce some limitation to the time travel, which is incredibly easy because they already had a time McGuffin: The Time Stone.
I've said something like this in other threads, just say that Thanos didn't reduce the stones to atoms, but rather just dust because you can't completely destroy them, Now the Avengers couldn't rebuild the stones, but they can use the time stone dust to stabilize the quantum realm or some other plot convenience, but only for a limited amount of time, until the time travel portal or something closes and the time stone dust runs out. Now they can't replicate the time travel, because they have bring the time stone back and can't really research it because the time travel is only there for a limited amount of time
Hulk possibly could have died and to fuck with the stones again just to bring back one person wouldn't have been worth it.
Did anyone feel they wanted Tony way too much in this film? Like people justifiably complain Captain Marvel for the Mary Sue she is but holy fuck they practically made Tony into a Jesus figure who can do no wrong by the end and can solve time travel in a couple minutes.
It's a capeshit movie what do you expect.
>Ugh guys I can't figure out quantum time travel
>MEANWHILE IN IRON CABIN
>Computer make a loop-de-loop
>Beep boop
>BY GOD I'VE DONE IT
Nobody should forget that the comics these movies are based on are stupid.
>no shot of Peter looking at the picture of him and Tony together to book end Tony's kitchen scene
There's no winning with you people. You complain when Tony fulfills his role as a main character but if he does nothing you also complain that he's a villain because he could've contributed to the solution.
Would they even need to snap? A combination of the time and reality stone might be enough maybe. It isn’t like they are killing half the universe or resurrecting half the universe or destroying the infinity stones.
>They make it a point that he needs to gesture to use the powers,
Would Jazz Hands have worked as a gesture?
They did resurrect half the universe.
In not a Capefag m8. I just thought it was weird how they inflated Iron Man so much.
Beyond that the movie was really cute and deserves the praise it gets.
Anything that confirms intent. He could say "I wish..." and it would work.
So snapped people didn't age for five years. Will Peter be in class with people five years younger than him? That's got to be a huge bureaucratic mess. I bet they will completely ignore any and all implications of such an event.
They should've kept the universe halved to make it carry some actual weight and just resurrect the heroes desu.
Yeah that is why I used that as an example. It required a lot to resurrect half the universe. If banner was able to do that somebody would be able to handle bringing back one person.
She should've been snapped by Tony though. It's hard to know what Tony wished for but surely it was something along with "Thanos and his army" and Gamora would almost certainly count here.
We find out in two months.
And how he turned the space stone back into a cube
Gamora turned against Thanos in Endgame so she's no longer his army and should survive from Tony's snap.
Joe is so retarded he said stones can't do that in that damn q&a
Yeah, it's nothing new. Just look at the first Avengers movie, or even the Earth's Mightiest Heroes opening.
If only the stones had some kind of mind and soul to see who was a part of that army and who wasn't.