Champions #5 Storytime

War of the Realms Tie-In:

The Return of Cyclops!

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dammit Norrin, I was just about to go to bed, but now I gotta stay up and read this

THANKS I guess

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fuck, I hope we get a whole issue of him being bros with Sam, like taking him to a strip club or a baseball game and buying him a beer and bonding
he's like the first non mutant guy that Scott was actually friends with ever

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that's my boy
Marvel should've made him Captain America

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Damn son. THat shade he through at Alex and the Xmen.

this art is pretty good

Fuck, this is worth it. :_;

Fuck this dumb shit, fuck Zub, WHEN IS SAM!!!!!?

So is Alex not evil anymore or...?

>Riri no way fagged so hard she went into hiding

I'm starting to think that no one can make a a good Champions comic, this team simply don't work.

This run has been pretty good so far.

>Giving away your real looks for no reason
Holy fuck Miles is not supposed to be THIS stupid.

If by good you mean garbage then yeah.

It's too late at night for my human heart to be having these emotions.

He's not exactly a patriotic type. He has no trust in governments or countries; he kind of sees the United States as an enemy that's constantly coming and gunning for him and his people just for existing. It's hard to say he's wrong, but it doesn't exactly lend itself to a role like that.

wasn't expecting all these feels today

That's not what I mean. So no.

>The terrorist
>coldhearted mutant radical willing to roll over anyone who got in his way
>A hardened killer
What kind of Breitbart-tier biased news sources was Kamala getting this from? Other than Charles Xavier (which doesn't count, he was possessed), did Cyclops ever ACTUALLY kill anyone during his "Revolution" phase?

>What kind of Breitbart-tier biased news sources was Kamala getting this from?
Maybe the Inhuman assholes that murdered him.

Dorn, is that you?

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Heh, nice

This is all I could’ve wanted and more

X-fans on suicide watxh, Scott left his fellow muties and hugged an Inhuman cutie.

I think he was Cap in an alternate universe

Who hasn’t

Can you blame him? I'd betray my friends in a second if I got to hug Kamala.

Nope, they finally fixed him in X-Men: Blue.
Oh, and Sabretooth is back to being pure evil too.

Not really, hell he didn't even advocate for killing people. He acted a little edgier than normal, but didn't really stop being a good guy at all it's just that everyone inexplicably hated him to the point where I still don't know if it was bad writing all around or someone was playing around with the disparity intentionally and a bunch of other writers missed the message.

>hell he didn't even advocate for killing people.
What about X-Force?

I mean, he did that before being branded as the worst person in the world.

>my
Scott is a very possessive kind of guy.

Honestly, can we just bring other new mutants into this team? Or at least Surge and Hellion? They are being wasted in X-men's on-going for years.

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Not gonna lie this comic is fucking awful.

How so?

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Oh, hey a book where X-Men can fight alongside heroes I wonder how the citizens will reac-

> Why are these guys working with filfthy muties can't they all just die and leave the good heroes alone!

...

>_>

this is awesome.

>To live my life without harming others
But you just helped the Champions fight against a bunch of trolls, or do they not count? If she doesn't want to fight others, then no super team is a good fit for her, the Champions punch people all the time.

It's Dust her entire life is a cycle of getting attacked, murdering the attackers, then praying the guilt away.

Wait, why is Scott's visor grey? It's supposed to be yellow in this outfit to match the color scheme of his belts and pouches. It's even yellow on the cover.

Ship

I think Emma overlaid his Axis personality with Lorna’s memory of who he used to be. He’s aware of how flimsy and incomplete a version of himself that is with evil Alex still under the surface.

How big is their age gap again?

He did help create Phoenix namor and murder a bunch of wakanda.

And cause alot damages during the avenger vs. X men event

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what asspull did they use for that? Emma fixed his brain?

Thor

>Muzzie hero that has sand powers
"It's like poetry, it rhymes."

Hey, Kamala already has troll fighting experience too!

Blame Morrison.

I want Ms Marvels tiddies pressed up against me.

This issue was excellent and Zub has been doing wonders with the Champions ever since he took over from Waid, and yet there's idiots like this who can't be pleased with anything or are just too focused on shitposting they can't see straight.

Didn't Cyclops immediately go back to "X-men fight only for mutants" right after they brought him back from the dead after they teased he'd be the boy scout Marvel needs

Based

>TO ME, MY KAMALA

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The issue where his return is shown he sets out to fight for everyone, but then in his first appearance back in X-Men, it was "save mutants, everyone else is a fuck up who doesn't care about us, even Captain America". So, it hasn't really been consistent.

I crie

I want Kamala hugs

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In space, avoiding the event.

Did she embiggen her breasts? They look awfully big on the cover

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They had to age her up a bit so she wouldn't look so out of place hugging adult Cyclops.

Double her age.

says the guy who tried to firebomb a bank

I legitimately thought that said
>cover artist: MARXISM

Thx for storytime op

It's to compensate for the Blob.

It's fine cause it's Kamala

So did coming back to life give him back his memories?

Love it.

He's getting that psychotic villainfu poonani. Let him be clear of this shit. He'll come back a Nova and a man.

>Aw, don't be so overdramatic, Scott. I'm right here.

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It was shown in Extermination that, as soon as the O5 are returned to their timeline of origin, a mental trigger was inserted in their brains to merge their memories with their past selves as soon as they reached a specific point in their present. So the O5 had their memories of their present adventures hidden away in the past, but in the present they were triggered back, merging both old and past selves.

Fuck I liked this way too much. It’s such a satisfying way to address this subject and kamala and scott’s interactions were absolutely charming.
It’ll probably be the only good thing to come from this event.

This is probably the most likable Scott we've had in years. For starters, he realizes that the X-Men are not the be-all-end-all of his entire existence.

I prefer Scott on this team instead of the X-Men

A bit funny and sad that comic Miles' most defining trait is that he hands out his secret identity like candy on Halloween.

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Wheres Cho at?

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X-Fans really seem to want mutants (besides major ones like Scott) to be freed from X-Books all the time.

He kind of don't know him. People already know he is black.

Agents of Atlas, the miniseries that will come out next week as a War of the Realms tie-in, featuring all Asian heroes. (Kamala wasn't invited)

っPast 8 years really wrecks we X-fans up. Especially for fans like me who became X-fans because of some 00s' stuff, such as Yost's New X-Men.

Well, at least now they're trying to salvage those damage, it's kinda improvement I guess.

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Fuck off frogposter

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>Zub on champions
>Waid on strange
Never thought I would like both of them that much but here we are

Wait, so Riri is hiding in her room since issue1 because she isn't sure whether she is a lesbian or a fetishist?

She's in Chicago right now in her own series.

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Garbage

Lucky Scott

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Cute

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Better than any JEEEEAAAANNN shit.

gross

what is she gonna do, reveal his identity? to who? miles doesn't care because he's not in danger, which is something peter cares about too much

Hellion

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I hope they all go back to being close friends soon... I don't like them growing apart and it's a really cohesive team otherwise.
Plus I miss this sort of banter among them.

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Dust looks awesome in that picture.

Shame the rest of team couldn't be here for the reunion

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Scott hasn't been written this well in a long time jesus christ

>missing the "You shall not pass!"
Weak.

Some X-characters are objectively better when they aren't dealing with other mutants and getting bogged down in that headache of a drama

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Well, he was being written by Bendis during the event. Can you blame him?

Wait. What's the story here? Why is this grown man being carried around?

When do we get Nova's space adventure with his future wife ?

I think the implication is that Beast almost got pegged.
Anyways he's being carried around because it's funny and Hank is a humorous character when he's an Avenger

And then she comes back in dressed like a slutty nurse.

Slutty nurse Viv I need it

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will always love how avengers beast is like "I'm the 4th super scientist here, you don't need me. I'm gonna have a good time"

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>almost
Unless that is the reason he has trouble walking.

He's pretty based in them, yeah. It's a shame that it doesn't translate to the X-men comics very often.
I mean...maybe! Would explain why Wonder Man looks pissed.

Story ends with the reveal that it's a wet dream and she walks in on him with a tent pitched.

Same.

I also hope we get more stuff of them just hanging out and goofing around

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How did Wasp lose her mind?

Had a manic episode in her ongoing. It was really great.

boyfriends carry each other around sometimes

...didnt he get told his Optic Blast could blow his whole head apart?

pinpoint carrying like always

Had a stress-induced psychotic meltdown and smacked all of her bitches around before nearly killing herself.

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I’m surprised that Marvel is allowing adult Scott to be friends with a non-Mutant superhero.

This is very suggestive...

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It's Scott's reward for being treated like shit, he gets to tap one of the most popular inhumans

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Looks like she wants permission to suck him off.

The second spiderman simply thought that person was asking for explanations, so he went and tried to explain it to that person, but if it's possible help someone, why not?

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>Monsters trying to invade Brazil
So.. nothing changes?

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A lot of characters.

Really? He doesn't even meet cap until the original Secret empire, not to mention the "fuck Cap you don't care" guy was Wolverine and rhat was in Secret wars before the retcon with him, Cap, and Widow.

Pinpoint is a team player

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He cute. I hope he is here to stay.

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it was really dark and as well written as unexpected(read: a lot)

...I now realise I want Slim being the "Adult Supervisor" of the Champions, using a disguise that fools nobody whatsoever and alternating between being the "Cool Uncle" and "PAD's Young Justice' Red Tornado" with a dose of "Professor X" once in a while(as a mentor).
...I just realised he could actually be "Professor C"

I also think the roster is too big nowadays, Zub has to reduce it to a more manageable number.

Team really needs a nanny but for me it's a coin toss for Cyclops or Herc

I would have said Herc, but he's in space being a Cosmic Bro.

So Scott would be quite fine.
Now, the Avengers might not being totally sold on it... but it also might work as a way for them to see if he went back being a Nice Guy and keep him under control indirectly.

I really don't like how he introduced so many characters so quickly,
plus stop making teen teams and leaving out Alpha, no wonder he's an asshole

yeah, too many people and Kamala trying to do too many things saving the whole world at the same time

>NOT TODAY, SCOTT!

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the huge roster is the point. it was only natural that the champions were gonna get this big all the way back to that "call to action" that ms marvel had in #1. they should take the next step and just "jlu" this shit

Missing Joaquin Torres on this Wednesday afternoon...

THIS IS FUCKING CUTE.
IM NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY, WHAT IS THIS?

These scenes made me feel warm inside

When does adult super visor ever work? I trust a villian more than hero.

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How long until Sam returns with his new space wife and newborn?

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Herc to busy doing butt stuff with Nova twink

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She was about to undress right then and there but based Sam told her no! Not before marriage! Preserve your honor!

Best boy returns

Pym genes

to think we could have had Indra to play the role of the pacifist mutant
instead we get Captain Women Objectification

Friendship with X-men is ended, champions are my friends now

Stupid question, guys, but I can't find the storytime for Champions #4 in the archive. Someone please help?

readcomiconline.to/Comic/Champions-2019/Issue-4?id=152941

>they should take the next step and just "jlu" this shit
what I was thinking.
Either that, or make a core-team and have the book being one adventure of the core-team and a backup of the various other characters.

her raping him, getting insta-preggo and turning into a super-cuddling lovey-dovey wife because alien biology with Sam being haunted by the idea of being a teenage father would be kino.
Also some weird "ladies night out" with Sam's mother and Proxima Midnight(who came only because curiosity but stayed and not killed because she was having a nice time)

616 Herc isn't bisex, user

>616 Herc isn't bisex, user
Yes he is, that one writer will have his opinion retconned at some point in the future.

what?

still, back in his Disassembled he flat stated he wasn't interested, as he told Achilles as well

I appreciate that link, user, but I was asking about a Yea Forums thread.

Sorry, that's what I get for not re-reading my posts after changing something.
Anyways I don't care about that pairing or whatever, i'm just saying.

when did Champions start being this good?

When zub took over

boards.fireden.net/co/thread/106801003/#q106801003

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It started being good when zub took starting before relunch on issue 19

Kamala is a cute and must be protected

It was always good imo

>616 Herc isn't bisex, user
He wears a harness. You're right, he's not bi, he's full blown gay.

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Can't wait to see fanart of Pinpoint in this style.
zAK oOO

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JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

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She didn't loose her mind. She's bipolar and had a manic episode. She's in therapy now.

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A living Funko Pop! What happened to her?

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Peter and Kamala got body-swapped, so Peter is trying to figure out how to embiggen Kamala's body.

Alex Alonso was Chief Creative Officer or some shit.

Meh, doesn't change what I said

Imagine if after this Kamala is revealed to be a mutant

They wouldn't want to ruin Kamala this way, so it's never gonna happen.

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He was Editor-in-Chief, and he was fired for driving Marvel sales into the ground during the ANAD-era. Now Shogun Yoshida is calling the shots.

>Australian Defense Force
So Australia doen't have a superhero team or operative?

She is bipolar, just like his dad.
They retconned Pym abusive behavior with bipolarity.

So, does Cyclops work better as an X-Man or Champion? Or does it just depend on who is around him?

Dictator of a small heavily militarized rogue state.

Cyclops is necessary for the X-Men and mutantkind in general not to go to hell, but that job makes him miserable in the long run. I'm sure he'd be happier mentoring the champions, honestly since his return this is the only time he's shown to be happy

It wasn't necessarily BAD under Waid, in fact a lot of cute casual moments with the squad happened under Waid. But it really started picking up with Zub and is one of Marvel's best team books since Secret Wars ended.

Dude I think it's always been the other way around. He had been having a ton of mental breakdowns beforehand but this time Janet was just the target of one.

Good to see Scott back and written well. It's been a long fucking time coming.

Alot of small character moments in the waid run were really spot on.

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No fair why does Scott get all the hugs?

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Dang that girl has a rack

I liked that issue Viv turned into a blonde bimbo

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"Inhuwars" was literally the name of the news site that called him "Mutant Hitler" in-universe

>>It wasn't necessarily BAD under Waid
The stories themselves were decent\good enough
the non-political-related character relationships were fine, too.

The problem were that most character interactions were political-related AND Waid sucked at writing all those kids talking.

>Alot of small character moments in the waid run were really spot on.
this.
to be fair, he mostly wrote wrong Kamala and Cho.
and still got some nice moments with Kamala

Hank has NEVER been abusive.
He hit her ONCE, while Janet was emotionally abusive toward him for most of Silver Age

they just EXPLAINED Hank's specific instability with a bipolar disorder back in Avengers AI
Which kind of make him a saint of sort, for dealing with all the shit he went through and still being coherent and generally trying to do good.

Do I need to read what is basically 18 issues of hashtagvengers to catch up or can I just begin att issue 19.

Read #12, it's a pretty good issue if you like cyclops and a standalone

Why should you get all the hugs?

Once again, Marvel tells us how people view Cyclops without backing it up in the writing.

You could start at #19, but honestly? Read some of the arcs in Waid's run, as some said here, when he wasn't doing outright political stuff, it was good. Avoid the Gwenpool issue though.

Emus and all of the other wildlife. That and they got gateway so he can bring whatever group he wants there.
She was originally supposed to explode.

It's just occurred to me that Roxxon could take down celestial and wakandan tech as well as everything else all over the world in a mass cyber attack, but fucking TWITTER survived.

Yes.

>that second panel
Did anyone else see this.

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ha ha think again

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Thank you!

Kek, thats what I was thinking too!

This series is great.

Because he listens

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pixie on suicide watch

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anyone think Patriot will get his own little arc
Yeah, Hank being an abuser was an Ultimate Universe thing

Wait is scott black now? :|

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That's Power Man...

Nevermind, that's Prodigy.

Can I hug Scott?

And Kamala is VERY squishy.

Kamala and Scott both like hugging people

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So their future kid is powered by some sort of Hug Force

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TEEEEEEEA!

Mildly related, but check out the preview for next week's Agents of Atlas #1 referenced in this issue and featuring Amadeus Cho, Shang-Chi, Silk Jimmy Woo, Kamala Khan, and newcomers Crescent, Aero, Wave, Io, Sword Master and Luna Snow.

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Peep this cool variant cover...

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Another one (Kamala is missed from both, so I don't know if she's joining the team later or what)

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BTW, Gang Hyuk Lim (Infinity Countdown: Darkhawk, West Coast Avengers) is doing the art.

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End of preview.

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So is Cho on the champs and atlas now?